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re: Saban: CFB Playoff has killed bowl games
Posted on 3/21/21 at 1:19 pm to Bench McElroy
Posted on 3/21/21 at 1:19 pm to Bench McElroy
The entire population will never accept one solution.
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Posted on 3/21/21 at 1:23 pm to X
quote:No, that's not quite the concept
And now those same people want to expand the playoffs like it will make a difference in who wins it all.
quote:The idea is, Michigan State is probably going to lose, but they won't be opting out before the game. And their fans will 100% tune in, as will Bama's. And most of the rest of the nation will too, at least to see if the game stays competitive in the first half.
Sorry but making Alabama play an 8th seeded Michigan State isn't going to help
And Alabama isn't the best example- they win most seasons whether it's 1 vs 2, or 1 vs 16. But Clemson or Oklahoma vs Georgia, that's a game worth playing.
And you also get games like UCF vs Wisconsin (just an example), to get to the next round.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 1:27 pm to nicholastiger
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Do you really think college athletes with nfl futures want to risk injury playing more games without being compensated?
If they can win a national title, yes.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 1:31 pm to MeatPants
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disagree. The outback bowl has the same meaning it always had
Yet it means less to the players is today than it did 15 years ago.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 1:32 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
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CFB needs more elimination games that mean something.
I dunno about that... I’m not even of the opinion the CFP needs expansion.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 1:34 pm to Bench McElroy
I agree with Coach Saban.
This is my plan that covers just that:
I say have a 16 team playoff.
First Round hosted by the higher seeds.
Final 8 and final 4 and championship game hosted by the seven biggest bowls i. e.
Rose, Sugar, Cotton, Fiesta, Peach, Citrus and Gator.
Then keep 10 bowl games for the 20 next deserving teams. Then you have 36 teams playing in the postseason. So you have to earn it but teams just outside the playoff get a reward.
The 10 bowls that are kept could be a combination of the best other bowl games.
Sun, Music City, Liberty, Holiday, Outback, Independence, Alamo, Las Vegas, Belk, Cheeze-It Bowls.
This is a WIN-WIN. All the way around.
The play off would take the 5 P5 champions and the 5 G5 champions plus 6 wild card teams. That way the little guy gets a chance in the play off and you could have an upset. Doubtful but possible.
Takes care of both sides of the issue successfully.
This is my plan that covers just that:
I say have a 16 team playoff.
First Round hosted by the higher seeds.
Final 8 and final 4 and championship game hosted by the seven biggest bowls i. e.
Rose, Sugar, Cotton, Fiesta, Peach, Citrus and Gator.
Then keep 10 bowl games for the 20 next deserving teams. Then you have 36 teams playing in the postseason. So you have to earn it but teams just outside the playoff get a reward.
The 10 bowls that are kept could be a combination of the best other bowl games.
Sun, Music City, Liberty, Holiday, Outback, Independence, Alamo, Las Vegas, Belk, Cheeze-It Bowls.
This is a WIN-WIN. All the way around.
The play off would take the 5 P5 champions and the 5 G5 champions plus 6 wild card teams. That way the little guy gets a chance in the play off and you could have an upset. Doubtful but possible.
Takes care of both sides of the issue successfully.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 1:34 pm to BamaGradinTn
1) You could add one more OOC game, specifically for those teams, call it cupcake day.
2) Some of those teams you are talking about play in power five conferences.
3) The teams that are not in the playoffs, could turn around and schedule another cupcake for a home game.
4) Honestly though, they really would not have a choice if the power 5 will not schedule them.
2) Some of those teams you are talking about play in power five conferences.
3) The teams that are not in the playoffs, could turn around and schedule another cupcake for a home game.
4) Honestly though, they really would not have a choice if the power 5 will not schedule them.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 1:35 pm to X
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No way. So Bama has to play a conf champ game, bowl game, and then another 2 playoff games? That's too much
The only way this ever works across the board is for all teams to have to play the same number of games. You can’t have some teams playing a tough conference championship and others resting for a week.
Other option may be that conference champions get a Bye week while non-conference champions play their way in via bowl game.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 1:38 pm to SpartyGator
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Then get rid of title IX
With the trans trend, they may be doing just that
Posted on 3/21/21 at 1:45 pm to BLG
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It's a decent bet, anyway, that college football as we know it will cease to exist in the not so distant future. The NFL will probably eventually have minor leagues, same as baseball.
Disagree
Posted on 3/21/21 at 1:49 pm to RollTide1987
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It would work but you'd have to dismantle the old system completely in order for it to work
What? Just expand the playoffs. There's no deep hidden secret to it 
Posted on 3/21/21 at 2:00 pm to Bench McElroy
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I've always been one that, if we are going to have playoffs, why don't we make the bowl games a part of that."
Right here Saban is saying we should expand the playoffs and I agree with him. It is going to happen and we will use the FCS model that has 24 teams. The top 8 teams get a first round by which will keep the blowouts down.
LINK
It is going to happen.
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Posted on 3/21/21 at 2:14 pm to TideFaninFl
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1) You could add one more OOC game, specifically for those teams, call it cupcake day.
2) Some of those teams you are talking about play in power five conferences.
3) The teams that are not in the playoffs, could turn around and schedule another cupcake for a home game.
4) Honestly though, they really would not have a choice if the power 5 will not schedule them.
Yes, they play in Power 5 conferences. So what? Most of the Power 5 teams won't sniff a 16 team playoff in your lifetime. Just look at the SEC. Kentucky, Mizzou, Vandy, USCe, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss. State. When the hell are they getting in even a 16 team playoff? Look at the Pac 12. Outside of 3 or 4 teams, the rest don't have a shot. It's foolishness to suggest they'd go along with cutting the season to 10 games.
100 FBS teams running around trying to schedule a couple of throw-away games in late November?
Expanded playoffs would benefit maybe 20-25 teams year in and year out. The other 100 aren't cutting games. It's foolishness to suggest they would.
This post was edited on 3/21/21 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 3/21/21 at 2:45 pm to Bench McElroy
With 30 bowls, it’s impossible to make all of them super prevalent. Plus people are going to talk about what they want to talk about. Not automatically what they are force-fed.
One way to make half of them more relevant would be to have the committee select a top 20. The teams ranked five through 20 could play eight games in the next 10-14 days after the conference championship weekend. The eight winners could repeat the process in another 10 to 14 days.The four winners of the second round could then play the top four ranked teams. In 10 to 14 days, with the championship to be 10 days or so later.
The 15 games that were not part of the playoff series could be sandwiched around the first two rounds for TV ratings purposes and exclusivity.
This would Create eight games with tremendous opportunity for Notoriety. Plus it would enable the top seven or so bowls now that are elite to maintain their status.
One way to make half of them more relevant would be to have the committee select a top 20. The teams ranked five through 20 could play eight games in the next 10-14 days after the conference championship weekend. The eight winners could repeat the process in another 10 to 14 days.The four winners of the second round could then play the top four ranked teams. In 10 to 14 days, with the championship to be 10 days or so later.
The 15 games that were not part of the playoff series could be sandwiched around the first two rounds for TV ratings purposes and exclusivity.
This would Create eight games with tremendous opportunity for Notoriety. Plus it would enable the top seven or so bowls now that are elite to maintain their status.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 2:49 pm to Bench McElroy
As per usual Saban is right. But why listen to the most successful college coach in history, amirite?
Posted on 3/21/21 at 2:53 pm to Scoob
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The idea is, Michigan State is probably going to lose, but they won't be opting out before the game.
Opt outs are only part of the problem. The biggest problem, at least in my opinion, is the lack of parity. As of right now, there are only a handful of schools who have a shot at winning the whole thing:
Clemson
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Texas
Alabama
Georgia
LSU
Texas A&M
Oregon
Southern Cal
And of those 10 schools I just listed, five of them have an outside shot of actually winning the national title. It's going to take a few bounces for teams like Oregon, Southern Cal, Texas, and Texas A&M to win the national championship in 2021.
So you see the conundrum of major college football? It's difficult for fans to care when they know the five teams that will be in contention for the four playoff spots before the season even begins.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 2:54 pm to RollTide1987
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Opt outs are only part of the problem.
That’s the problem we are essentially discussing ITT.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 2:57 pm to djsdawg
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That’s the problem we are essentially discussing ITT.
I know. And it's merely a symptom of the disease.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 3:15 pm to RollTide1987
I would say it’s a separate disease:
Players from schools who can win titles quit when they can’t win a title.
Players who can’t win a title don’t quit when they can’t win a title.
Players from schools who can win titles quit when they can’t win a title.
Players who can’t win a title don’t quit when they can’t win a title.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 3:32 pm to djsdawg
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I would say it’s a separate disease
I consider them linked. People are bitching about the same schools being in the playoff every year, so people want to expand the playoffs to allow more teams into the big dance in part to prevent opt outs.
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