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re: Saban: CFB Playoff has killed bowl games
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:42 am to Bench McElroy
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:42 am to Bench McElroy
Bowl games make mediocre programs like Auburn feel better when they can beat a Northwestern or Purdue.
Gus after huge bowl game win over Minnesota:
"Well we've got a young team and I'm awful proud of how they competed. We had a great week of practice and it really showed"
Gus after huge bowl game win over Minnesota:
"Well we've got a young team and I'm awful proud of how they competed. We had a great week of practice and it really showed"
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Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:42 am to Bench McElroy
"Is this what we want football to be?" - Nick Saban (October 2012)
The man is a prophet as well as a legendary coach. You people who made fun of him and said he was afraid of change are now reaping the whirlwind.
The man is a prophet as well as a legendary coach. You people who made fun of him and said he was afraid of change are now reaping the whirlwind.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:43 am to boogiewoogie1978
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BCS was superior in every way
I remember reading something that the old BCS selection system has still ended up picking the same two teams who have ended up in the CFP title games. Pretty crazy, if true.
This post was edited on 3/21/21 at 9:44 am
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:44 am to Lemonpuppy
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I understand that, but those teams don’t have a chance at winning anything important. If they can’t fund their own athletic departments then they need to drop it and move on.
Do small businesses rely on Walmart to write them checks to keep them going?
Really weird when you think about it. For a Rant fan base, with so many members being dead set against socialism, seems to be a lot of sentiment on how to create this so-called level playing field.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:45 am to dawgfan24348
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Even the FCS has a proper playoff system but of course the FBS is the one instance where it wouldn't work
It would work but you'd have to dismantle the old system completely in order for it to work. That takes time and costs people money because the bowls generate revenue for an awful lot of them. Also...it's not like the FCS is better for it. North Dakota State has been dominating that division of football in such a way it makes Alabama's run look like child's play.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:47 am to Lemonpuppy
Those schools get paid to get beat but the Host schools get all the money to spend on other athletic teams that lose money every single year and that will continue. You need at least 7 homes games to pay the bills. The bean counters know the story and it shows already. One day maybe you get to 9 SEC games but that is it.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:49 am to RollTide1987
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"Is this what we want football to be?" - Nick Saban (October 2012)
The man is a prophet as well as a legendary coach. You people who made fun of him and said he was afraid of change are now reaping the whirlwind.
Wasn't he talking about offenses and not the playoff?
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:49 am to bamameister
Exactly. I think people like to see the smaller schools compete, but they are hurting college football. I cannot stand watching the two fcs type teams roll into Tuscaloosa. It’s like watching paint dry. Football is not like basketball.
If you truly want an even playing field you’d have to change the recruiting system not the post game system. Expanding the playoff will just show the imbalance even further.
Imagine if Bama had played the #8 team?
If you truly want an even playing field you’d have to change the recruiting system not the post game system. Expanding the playoff will just show the imbalance even further.
Imagine if Bama had played the #8 team?
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:51 am to RollTide1987
Big conference realignment with pods or mini-divisions and basically start the playoffs there like the NFL does. Basically break away from the NCAA and call it the National Collegiate Football League.
This post was edited on 3/21/21 at 9:52 am
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:51 am to Bench McElroy
Saban is a smart man...
Why not have a playoff with 32 or 16 teams? That’s 16 or 8 bowl games. In a 32 team playoff, the first round could be played at the higher seeds stadium. Then the rest played at bowl sites. That would give you 15 sites. The top ranked teams would play closer to home each round. That’s 4 more games for only 2 teams, 2 more games for only 4 teams. That’s not a lot and would make bowls relevant again.
Who wouldn’t want to see more elimination games? I bet if basketball had 128 team tourney, it would get just as much viewers, maybe more with an extra week. CFB needs more elimination games that mean something.
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if we are going to have playoffs, why don't we make the bowl games a part of that."
Why not have a playoff with 32 or 16 teams? That’s 16 or 8 bowl games. In a 32 team playoff, the first round could be played at the higher seeds stadium. Then the rest played at bowl sites. That would give you 15 sites. The top ranked teams would play closer to home each round. That’s 4 more games for only 2 teams, 2 more games for only 4 teams. That’s not a lot and would make bowls relevant again.
Who wouldn’t want to see more elimination games? I bet if basketball had 128 team tourney, it would get just as much viewers, maybe more with an extra week. CFB needs more elimination games that mean something.
This post was edited on 3/21/21 at 10:14 am
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:51 am to Bench McElroy
He’s correct.
The BCS era was by far the most watched and attended era of college football. It’s really lost a lot of enthusiasm since we moved away from that system.
The BCS era was by far the most watched and attended era of college football. It’s really lost a lot of enthusiasm since we moved away from that system.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:52 am to Bench McElroy
I honestly don't care if the bowl games are reduced or even better are replaced with a larger playoff. Bowl games are obsolete now.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:52 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
I see your argument, but it’s time for football and basketball to stop bailing out the freaking swimming and rowing teams. People only care about the worlds best swimmers and rowers in the olympics. They don’t care about collegiate levels. It sucks and it sounds bad, but it’s reality.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:53 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
double post
This post was edited on 3/21/21 at 9:54 am
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:54 am to Lemonpuppy
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I see your argument, but it’s time for football and basketball to stop bailing out the freaking swimming and rowing teams. People only care about the worlds best swimmers and rowers in the olympics. They don’t care about collegiate levels. It sucks and it sounds bad, but it’s reality.
Title IX and all.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:56 am to SidewalkTiger
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Wasn't he talking about offenses and not the playoff?
He was. But I also feel he's spot on when it comes to the bowls vs. the playoffs. One cannot exist while the other survives. If you're going to have a playoff, you need to dismantle the bowl system because no one cares about anything outside the playoffs anymore. You're seeing more and more players opting out of these "meaningless" bowl games. It's time to either get rid of the bowls entirely or expand the playoffs so that these bowls can participate in the playoff system.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:59 am to dawgfan24348
Do you really think college athletes with nfl futures want to risk injury playing more games without being compensated?
Let’s say bama makes playoffs three straight years, think of the wear and tear on those players
Let’s say bama makes playoffs three straight years, think of the wear and tear on those players
Posted on 3/21/21 at 10:02 am to Lemonpuppy
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Exactly. I think people like to see the smaller schools compete, but they are hurting college football. I cannot stand watching the two fcs type teams roll into Tuscaloosa. It’s like watching paint dry. Football is not like basketball.
I would imagine the HCs deep desire for these FCS rent-a-wins matter more for that value alone than the benevolent desire to see FCS schools succeed financially.
I would love to take it a step future and that would be to create another division in college football. The mid-tier teams need their own playoffs, just like the FCS. Multiple teams get in, that has to totally change mid-tier fan excitement and expectations during the season and certainly post-season. Imagine, every year a mid-tier team wins a legitimate NC.
Bet even ESPN would be into signing up for another wild and woolly playoff season.
The power-5 has the big stage to itself as it is.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 10:05 am to Bench McElroy
Can’t have a system that is everything to everybody.
Somethings going to lose out.
The more you legitimize the national champion by using a playoff system, the more you delegitimize the bowl system.
When playoff expansion eventually happens, the bowls will be further deligitmized.
Somethings going to lose out.
The more you legitimize the national champion by using a playoff system, the more you delegitimize the bowl system.
When playoff expansion eventually happens, the bowls will be further deligitmized.
This post was edited on 3/21/21 at 10:07 am
Posted on 3/21/21 at 10:05 am to Cossatotjoe
I disagree. The outback bowl has the same meaning it always had
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