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Saban: CFB Playoff has killed bowl games

Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:15 am
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:15 am
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Saban joined Bryant McFadden and Patrick Petersen on the "All Things Covered" podcast this week to discuss the future of the college football postseason.

"I've always been one that bowl games and playoffs are going to have a tough time coexisting together," he said. "Bowl games have always been a positive thing for college football players because a lot of people get a lot of self-gratification for having a good season. Maybe you didn't win a championship or whatever, but you get a chance to go to a good bowl game and have some fun. It's a really good, positive reinforcement for college football players.

"When we had a two-team playoff, if we made a four team playoff, that's going to take away from the bowl games and all the people are going to talk about is the playoff. My issue is not with expanding the playoff, it's the more you expand the playoff, the less important bowl games become. Nobody talks about bowl games now. All they talk about is who's in the playoffs and who are the four teams. That's it."

"You don't even hear about the other games and all that stuff," he said. "That's always been my issue with the playoff is that bowl games sort of get put on the back shelf. If we want to expand the playoffs, that's OK. I don't think you can have bowl games and do that as well. I've always been one that, if we are going to have playoffs, why don't we make the bowl games a part of that."
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Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30812 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:17 am to
That plus the glut of bowl games.

Back when there was 10-12 at most, it was a big deal.

Now there's so many they have problems at times finding enough teams with winning records.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7121 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:18 am to
I said that same thing when a playoff was suggested, but it's worked out great for Alabama so I'm cool with it.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3114 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:19 am to
The way to make the bowls and CFP coexist is to pick the top 4 AFTER the bowls are played. You must win your bowl game at the very least to get in. That will make bowl season interesting again.
This post was edited on 3/21/21 at 9:21 am
Posted by X
Member since Jun 2010
3516 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:20 am to
And now those same people want to expand the playoffs like it will make a difference in who wins it all. Sorry but making Alabama play an 8th seeded Michigan State isn't going to help
Posted by Lemonpuppy
Mississippi
Member since May 2020
2709 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:24 am to
I agree make the playoffs two extra games after bowl games.
Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
7895 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:24 am to
He’s right.

The BCS system had its faults, but bowl games are becoming irrelevant.

Second and third tier programs essentially have to produce near perfect seasons to get through the CFP Selection Mafia. The bowl game consolation hardly gives a thumbs up to those teams who are right outside.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:26 am to
I thought we were making the playoffs and bowls relevant? Even with 8 teams and playing them all in one-time bowls, that's not going to save the rest of the bowl season. The thing about self-gratification is that it's never the same, even for teams that have been to multiple playoffs. It can get expected and the hunger for a title doesn't have to be the same from season to season with any legitimate contender. Which makes repeating a real problem.

I use to hate the politics of the old bowl system when nothing was finalized, or remotely fair. The bowl system was broke back then much more so than anyone can break bowl season today. I guess self-gratification is where you find it.
This post was edited on 3/21/21 at 9:28 am
Posted by X
Member since Jun 2010
3516 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:28 am to
quote:

pick the top 4 AFTER the bowls are played.

No way. So Bama has to play a conf champ game, bowl game, and then another 2 playoff games? That's too much
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6755 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:29 am to
quote:

The way to make the bowls and CFP coexist is to pick the top 4 AFTER the bowls are played. You must win your bowl game at the very least to get in. That will make bowl season interesting again.



How do you pick the teams for the bowls? To fairly seed this you’d want the #1 team to play the lowest seed making a bowl and so on, correct? In other words, you’d have something like Bama playing a team like Florida Atlantic in the Sugar? Seams very strange to me; I don’t think the matchups would be any more compelling in such a system.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11654 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:29 am to
Football season will end with the Super Bowl and NC on the same weekend.............no

4 is enough
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52188 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:29 am to
quote:

"I've always been one that bowl games and playoffs are going to have a tough time coexisting together," he said. "Bowl games have always been a positive thing for college football players because a lot of people get a lot of self-gratification for having a good season. Maybe you didn't win a championship or whatever, but you get a chance to go to a good bowl game and have some fun."


I don't know, it seemed to work for Aggie.
Posted by CrimsonClover
Member since Oct 2020
1063 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:31 am to
He’s been saying this since the creation of the playoff. Not exactly breaking news
Posted by Lemonpuppy
Mississippi
Member since May 2020
2709 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:34 am to
Not if you make 10 game conference schedules permanent and quit playing scrubs 2-3 times a year.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21455 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:35 am to
He’s right.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11654 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:35 am to
Those 2-3 scrub (at home) pay for all the other losing(money) sports teams to get to play
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16941 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:37 am to
BCS was superior in every way
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:39 am to
And Video killed the radio star... Bound to happen.
Posted by Lemonpuppy
Mississippi
Member since May 2020
2709 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:39 am to
I understand that, but those teams don’t have a chance at winning anything important. If they can’t fund their own athletic departments then they need to drop it and move on.

Do small businesses rely on Walmart to write them checks to keep them going?

If you can’t draw 20k fans to your stadium then you shouldn’t have 15 different Nike alternate uniforms and be traveling across the country to play teams you have no chance at beating. Small ball is small ball leave it at that.
This post was edited on 3/21/21 at 9:45 am
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49205 posts
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:41 am to
You traditionalists have a weird obsession with a broken system. Even the FCS has a proper playoff system but of course the FBS is the one instance where it wouldn't work
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