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re: Rivalry Games

Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by Bama2018
Huntsville, AL
Member since Sep 2014
407 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:59 pm to
Sit down bitch. Go get in the back of the line. You are a peasant in this league.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 2:00 pm
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8075 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

Sit down bitch. Go get in the back of the line. You are a peasant in this league.


I’m trying to help. I think I have updated the OP with all feedback.

My initial thought process is that maybe 5 permanent games + 5 rotating games might work. But that would be 10 SEC games each year.
Posted by Wellborn
Cypress, TX
Member since Oct 2014
1554 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:07 pm to
Seriously. Tap the brakes and know your place.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:09 pm to
Ok, here, let me help you:

TIER 1 - These are games that, if they are not played, there will be earthquakes and lightning, the dead rising from their graves, dogs and cats living together, etc. These games define the SEC, not just now, but forever.

Alabama vs Auburn
Auburn vs Georgia
Alabama vs Tennessee
Georgia vs Florida
Ole Miss vs Mississippi State

If y'all end up joining, I'd throw Texas vs Texas A&M and Oklahoma vs Texas into this tier. Yes, I know UT/A&M isn't currently being played, but that's because y'all are both a bunch of whiny babies. College football as a whole deserves that game.

TIER 2 - These are games that people would really miss if they were gone, but there might not be rioting in the streets over it.

LSU vs Alabama
LSU vs Ole Miss
LSU vs Florida
Auburn vs Florida
Texas A&M vs LSU
Tennessee vs Florida
Tennessee vs Georgia

TIER 3 - These games are generally far more important to one team than the other.

Alabama vs Mississippi State
Tennessee vs Kentucky
Tennessee vs Vanderbilt
Georgia vs South Carolina
LSU vs Arkansas
Arkansas vs Missouri
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
3806 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:10 pm to
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I don’t care where Texas goes as long as Texas plays Oklahoma every year.


Cool, how about staying in the B12 then?
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 2:11 pm
Posted by ChadThundercock
Germany
Member since Mar 2020
554 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

I’m trying to help. I think I have updated the OP with all feedback.

My initial thought process is that maybe 5 permanent games + 5 rotating games might work. But that would be 10 SEC games each year.


This is how you have to do it. Play 9 conference games, 3 fixed and rotate the remaining 6 every other year. Obviously those remaining six can be managed and tinkered with to create parity. This scenario allows you to be able to play every single one of those rivalries I listed.




Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
2795 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:11 pm to
Continuous editing to keep from looking like a cock sucker still isn’t helping OP.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Texas A&M vs LSU
TIER 4
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8075 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:19 pm to
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Continuous editing to keep from looking like a cock sucker still isn’t helping OP.

Updated for all comments so far.. i’ll keep editing as y’all keep giving me info.. What about South Carolina? I don’t have anything for them yet.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59637 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:26 pm to
You forgot lsu auburn. That series held the sec west up high for almost a decade
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6022 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:35 pm to
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This is how you have to do it


I like it. I am perfectly fine trading Tennessee for Auburn. Something tells me if we knew we'd be going to one permanent from the get go, the divisions would have been set up differently. We have little to no history with Tennessee prior to the division format.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

The goal was to learn which games are really important
cringe
Posted by AnAmericanGirl
Member since Feb 2019
506 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

The goal was to learn which games are really important


We don't want you here. No one likes you. You can't sit at our table. Its best if you just leave now while you can.

You already messed up rivalry games with your bullshite in your own conference. But now, rivalry games are important to you?

GTFOH
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

Texas vs Texas A&M
- play it

No
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7284 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:31 pm to
You can dump SC from UGA's "must play 3-some".
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20990 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:43 pm to
Alabama is not an LSU rival, Nick Sabin is the rival, we just want to beat him.

I think the two toughest games of my 49 years for LSU is always Auburn and Florida.
Posted by GruvenDawg
Member since Jul 2018
893 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

This is how you have to do it. Play 9 conference games, 3 fixed and rotate the remaining 6 every other year. Obviously those remaining six can be managed and tinkered with to create parity. This scenario allows you to be able to play every single one of those rivalries I listed.


Nice work but imbalanced pods. No way Auburn plays 3 of the “Big 6” every year. The way you handle that is maintaining rivalries while having 2 “traditional powers” in the same pod, and two non-traditional powers in the same pod. The only pod that gets messed up is the Bama/AU/UT pod. You could potentially do a 9 game season with the rest of the pod mates and 1 permanent rival from another pod. Think traditional program level vs traditional program level from another pod, IE Bama vs UT, Texas vs Texas A&M, LSU be OU, etc.. (FYI I have not tried to put this 4x4 pod +1 permanent on paper and define a 4 year schedule in it but I think it might still work)

Pod mates traditional powers “big 6 +2”
UGA/FL
Bama/AU/ and perhaps UT in this pod for rivalry reasons
UT/OU
LSU/ TA&m? I guess A&M gets elevated in this scenario even though they haven’t done squat in the SEC. This is why it’s a bad idea to keep UT in the Bama/AU pod.

Pod mates Non traditional powers
You guys know the rivalries. Stick the two that play against the two in your pod that mean the most. I have a spreadsheet but I’m not going to take a screenshot to post it. Having said that my original spreadsheet from 4 years ago has KU added instead of Texas. I never thought TX would be happy having 1/16 votes

Also if you do this for the other super 4 conferences (4x16=64 teams) 2 traditional powers and 2 non traditional powers almost all rivalries are played yearly in the S4 and the schedule balance is awesome. Literally multiple GREAT games every week of the season. If conferences gave up scheduling decisions for OOC games it gets really interesting .With a scheduling czar requiring 9 conference games and 2 S4 OOC you could see one year a B1G vs SEC challenge that is 16 vs 16 team league schedule (ie 1 vs 1, 2 vs 2, etc) for 1 of the OOC games.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:09 pm
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42288 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:18 pm to
You don’t get to control what games will and won’t be played.
Posted by CauleyHog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Nov 2012
4618 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:21 pm to
The idea of not playing Ole Miss every year would make me cry.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8075 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:22 pm to
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You don’t get to control what games will and won’t be played.

Not a problem Boss! I’m pretty sure no one on this message board has that control.. It’s just a fun exercise to try and helps others in their quest to find the perfect schedule that makes everyone happy.
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