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re: Rashada is the first domino

Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:26 pm to
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This kid is dealing with his 4th team in a single year of NIL. Now he's suing the head coach and boosters in Florida. What could go wrong in Athens? Why Kirby Smart wants this mercenary on the team is anyone's guess. What does a dawg locker room eventually look like with a malcontent that was promised 9 million from Miami and 13 million in Florida?

Is anyone getting Brian Kelly's vibe yet?


That won't be an issue in Athens. I was told everyone wants to play for Kirby at a significant discount.
Posted by BranchDawg
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:27 pm to
I want you to picture an early November afternoon in Jacksonville, Florida.

Highs hit the low 80’s, mostly cloudy, but the sun peaks out every 10-15 minutes or so. Weather apps called for 30% of rain, but it never happened.

Georgia is blowing out Florida. They just scored again in the 4th and it’s 30-something to 10.

The man that just threw that TD pass is suing the Florida head coach that is about to lose his job thanks, in some small part, to the current arse-whipping being delivered by his accuser.

What a time to be alive.
Posted by ForeverGator
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:29 pm to
This won’t backfire on you at all.

He’s on your team, you’ll be the next target of this kid.

This will be dismissed before the game.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 2:10 pm to
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That won't be an issue in Athens. I was told everyone wants to play for Kirby at a significant discount.


He was signed to be the third string QB for UGA and potentially fight for a backup role.

That's not exactly a position where you get a big money deal from any school, including UGA.

So far UGA's NIL strategy has been mostly to pay players who earn significant playing time more, while paying everyone else a baseline NIL deal.

My understanding is we tell players during recruiting/transfers "starting players at your position typically earn around X, backups are around Y, our lowest NIL earner at your position gets Z"

This might have changed with the court decisions on NIL. Before hand UGA was being very careful about not crossing the line where they could be accused of engaging in pay to play.

I don't think UGA would offer millions to a high school recruit unless their recruiting without doing so went down significantly. Maybe for an elite transfer who'd start right away though.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 2:11 pm
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 2:12 pm to
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He’s on your team, you’ll be the next target of this kid.


We'd have to make him an offer we weren't going to pay to be a target. UGA isn't going to offer much for a backup/3rd string QB through. And they'll pay whatever they agreed to.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22972 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 2:39 pm to
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Not saying he should try to stop it necessarily. But, giving it “his blessings” seems a bit more than just an “ok then.”

You don’t think Kirby has given many empty promises? Just saying he shouldn’t throw any stones… slippery slope here.


I doubt those are even his words, but rather the words of someone else to describe him being ok with it.

I just don't see where any coach would do anything different.

As for empty promises, I figure it's a lot like being recruited into the military. It's going to be 90% lies.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
15125 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 2:47 pm to
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imagine paying players and still being that shitty of a program

LSU has been like that a few years back.
Posted by JEC119
Member since Apr 2024
138 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:01 pm to
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You tell the kid he can't do it, and that's what would backfire.


Are you saying backfire as in he’d move on to another team ?

This is getting stupid by the day, not your comment but the whole NIL / I don’t get my way I leave Bull shite from kids who haven’t proved themselves.

Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10308 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:24 pm to
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We'd have to make him an offer we weren't going to pay to be a target. UGA isn't going to offer much for a backup/3rd string QB through. And they'll pay whatever they agreed to.


And now you know why he's scrounging for money
Posted by Roll on Tigers
Across the Border
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:27 pm to
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theCAW


This guy has become my favorite poster on this site.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25999 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:33 pm to
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And now you know why he's scrounging for money


Are you familiar with tort at all?
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4625 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:09 pm to
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And now you know why he's scrounging for money


The information out there right now seems pretty convincing that he was wronged financially. Both in cancelling his NIL deal the day after the first 500,000 payment was due, then lying to him by saying that he would still get the money (staring with a million the day after signing day) then reneging on that as well, thus keeping him from securing another NIL deal elsewhere.

I'm sure that if things hadn't worked out so poorly for him in terms of NIL money he might not have bothered to go after UF. But thanks to UF's deception, it became very hard for him to collect near the amount of money he was going to be able to get had they been honest with him.

And that is fraud and tortious interference resulting in a broken contract.

I am going to be interested to see what UF's explanation is for why he ended up signing with UF after his NIL deal was cancelled if it wasn't due to lies told to him by UF boosters and staff. It obviously wasn't "love of the school" or anything like that as he requested his release from his NIL when they ended up not paying him.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10308 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:11 pm to
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The information out there right now seems pretty convincing that he was wronged financially.


Given he apparently was "wronged financially" by multiple collectives and schools, I think it's more dude is looking for money any way he can.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10308 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:13 pm to
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Are you familiar with tort at all?


That's why you get a contract. And both parties sign the contract. Then you've got a real case.

Handshake deals and alleged phone calls are pretty hard to prove/disprove in court. He's looking for a settlement payment. I don't think he'll get one.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4625 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:17 pm to
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Given he apparently was "wronged financially" by multiple collectives and schools, I think it's more dude is looking for money any way he can.


The only school that seems to have lied to him about paying him money to come to their school is Florida.

ASU didn't offer him anything.

I have no idea what UGA offered, but for a 3rd string QB it can't be much.

UF offered him 13 million to get him off his Miami commit (who supposedly offered him 9.5 million but never was in a position to have to pay). Then the day after the first payment was due, they cancelled his deal, but apperenlty the 3 people named in the lawsuit (including the UF coach) kept telling him he'd get the money from the first deal. They promised him a million dollars the day after signing day. This appears to be to keep him from going back to Miami.

Then after he signed, they didn't pay him.

The only collectives or teams that appear to have wronged him financially are at UF. Not making a big offer is different than making a big offer, having the player agree to it and then not paying him even though you kept telling him lies that he'd be paid.

That's very scummy. And also illegal if it's true.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10308 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:19 pm to
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UF offered him 13 million to get him off his Miami commit (who supposedly offered him 9.5 million but never was in a position to have to pay). Then the day after the first payment was due, they cancelled his deal,


Which was legal per the agreement.

quote:

but apperenlty the 3 people named in the lawsuit (including the UF coach) kept telling him he'd get the money from the first deal.


That's his claim and without any hard evidence it's going to be very hard to prove.

He's looking for settlement.
Posted by rtr23242526
Member since Dec 2022
2354 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:23 pm to
FL guilty
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
8070 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:29 pm to
Never say never. As an LSU fan I never thought Alleva would get fired and he made Stricklin look like a top AD. If Miracles can happen at LSU, they can happen at Florida too
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
2722 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:31 pm to
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I never thought Alleva would get fired and he made Stricklin look like a top AD.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
8070 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:36 pm to


Just keep the faith
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