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re: Ranking the Power 4 Schools for Academics

Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
2854 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:44 pm to
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All of the HS teachers and PE coaches that went to Texas and Texas A&M simply ignore their 60k annual salaries because muhhh academic rankings!


Jokes aside you really should seek therapy for that inferiority complex you have regarding Texas and Texas A&M
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
48617 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 4:52 pm to
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23. Florida State
25. Miami


I have no idea how this happened. All the dummies always got in to FSU back in the day.
Posted by West Seattle Dude
West Sesttle
Member since Aug 2023
485 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:00 pm to
UC Berkeley and Michigan are considered to be “safety” schools for those who can’t get into elite, Ivy League caliber schools.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3795 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:01 pm to
Rankings mean very little. They are all indoctrination factories, but you can probably get a decent education at most if you pick the correct major and put in some effort to actually learn.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33351 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:11 pm to
I was about to say some of those schools are WAY too high then i saw its just P4.

College football is basically the NFL now. The recruits have about 5 other things more important when they choose a school vs academic ranking.
Posted by George Dickel
Member since Jun 2019
2174 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:16 pm to
Yes…. bring Ga Tech back in.
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
6789 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:34 pm to
Bear Bryant tried to get Tech back in the conference years ago. Auburn and Georgia blocked it. I doubt that will change. We'll probably end up in the Big10 along with Miami if we ever leave the ACC. I personally prefer the SEC because I want our regional rivalries back but there are a lot of younger Tech fans who prefer the Big10. Doesn't really matter. College sports is fubar anyway.
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
3818 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:42 pm to
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UVA might as well be a private Ivy, don't think they take state money any more.


Other than the $294.4 million that is.


Seriously, a little Googling would have shown you that your assertion is patently false.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
27390 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:09 pm to
They care about markets..so both Duke and Virginia make sense
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
3818 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:26 pm to
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there are a lot of younger Tech fans


Tech doesn't have "a lot" of any demographic of fan.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16305 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 7:37 pm to
Moron....

Yes—UVA intentionally reduced its reliance on state funding to gain more autonomy. This shift was formalized through a charter agreement passed by the Virginia General Assembly in 2005 and signed by then-Governor Mark Warner. In return for accepting lower state support, UVA was granted heightened autonomy over its own operations.

Here’s how it unfolded:

Declining State Funding Share: Over time, UVA's portion of its total budget funded by the Commonwealth of Virginia shrank drastically. By the 2013–14 period, state funding accounted for just 6 percent of the overall university budget; and only around 9–10 percent of academic division revenue.

I remember when they did this and figured they zeroed out by now. Eitherway, they don't belong in the SEC as noted.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 7:41 pm
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
9673 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 8:20 pm to
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64. Kentucky (56.5, 61, 63)
65. Cincinnati (56.5, 68, 59)
66. Mississippi State (66.5, 64, 56)
67. Louisville (62.5, 66, 65)


Impressive Kentucky.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77203 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 8:22 pm to
LSU has just accepted that it is a football and baseball factory now.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
42362 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 8:32 pm to
Meh ... composite rankings are composite.

... and normally highly subjective and often biased.

There's a lot of valid arguments that can be made against these rankings. If I remember correctly, the U.S. News Rankings were debunked for being influenced by money from institutions as well as for showing foreign government influenced biases.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
9673 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 8:33 pm to
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They care about markets..so both Duke and Virginia make sense


Virginia doesn’t have much of a market. NOVA only cares about Pro Sports and rural Virginia is mostly Tech fans. Their games are not well attended.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14081 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 8:38 pm to
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When it comes to the actual number of eyeballs, Atlanta is by far the largest college football television market in the nation.

Tech's alumni base in Atlanta is actually smaller than several out of state SEC schools (and possibly Clemson too).

Older Tech alumni (those that graduated in the 80s and before) are still around. However, in the last 25-30 years Tech graduates are highly likely to leave and go to the west coast, other parts of the country, or are international students who return home with their degree.

Add in the number of non-Georgia natives that continue to relocate to Atlanta and bring fan support from Big 10 ir Big 12 footprint schools, Tech just doesn't have that many eyeballs to bring to the table.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 8:52 pm to
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Impressive, Kentucky.


FIFY
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1155 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 8:56 pm to
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When I was a kid (‘80s/early ‘90s) Bama was always just a notch above Auburn in the rankings and I remember Bama grads would always stick their chest out about it.


I'm not sure where you got this. Auburn was generally ranked ahead of Alabama throughout the '80's. I made my school choice in part due to those rankings then. Auburn was also the larger school that attracted more OOS students for that period.

Alabama briefly figured out ways to game the US News rankings circa 2000, along with several other institutions around the country. One of many tricks they used was to make applying not only free, but they also gave applicants a $5 iTunes gift card. This pumped up their selectivity by US News standards. They and other schools also admitted marginal freshmen as "provisional" students in the summer term, when the rankings counted only the academics of the "real freshmen" who entered in the Fall. Texas and Clemson IIRC both pulled this one as well.

It took a couple of cycles for US News to fix the rankings to stop the various methods of gaming them, but once they did UAT fell back into the high 100's for all universities.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
13998 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 8:56 pm to
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I have no idea how this happened


I'm surprised as well. I have several relatives that went to FSU and all of them joked about their academics. If they've improved that much, good for them.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6782 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:08 pm to
Bright Futures is the FL version of GA's Hope scholarship, not surprised it's elevated FSU (and UF as well).
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