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re: Rank the 5 greatest coaches in SEC Baseball history
Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:22 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:22 am to SummerOfGeorge
I don't see how O'Sullivan is any better than Mainieri. With the disgusting amount of riches Florida has had in pitching staff in the past decade shouldn't he get more flak for only winning 1 title. CPM has been solid. (5 CWS, 1 Runner Up, 1 Title in 11 years)
For Mainieri
For Mainieri
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Mainieri currently sits at No. 4 on the career wins list for active NCAA coaches, No. 10 in all-time NCAA wins and is one of only seven coaches in NCAA baseball history to have won over 1,300 games and a national championship. He has led the Tigers to the nation's highest win total over the last 10 seasons with 484 victories.
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:24 am to BamaGradinTn
what's interesting about Riley,Swayze and Schmittou was in addition to being outstanding head baseball coaches, they were also their football team's recruiting coordinators.
As I'm sure you know BGinTn,but others may not, Riley was Major Ogilvie's uncle.
As I'm sure you know BGinTn,but others may not, Riley was Major Ogilvie's uncle.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:25 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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I don't see how O'Sullivan is any better than Mainieri. With the disgusting amount of riches Florida has had in pitching staff in the past decade shouldn't he get more flak for only winning 1 title. CPM has been solid. (5 CWS, 1 Runner Up, 1 Title in 11 years)
Anytime an argument disregards accomplishments for the talent on the roster that's a sign that you are discounting one of the biggest aspects of a college coach : recruiting those riches, which Mainieri and O'Sullivan do very well.
Paul Mainieri : 5 CWS, 1 Title, 1 Runner-Up, 3 SEC Titles, 6 SECT Titles
Kevin O'Sullivan : 6 CWS, 1 Title, 1 Runner-Up, 4 SEC Titles, 2 SECT Titles
They've both done great jobs. You could probably go either way I guess. I'd take O'Sullivan, though.
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:26 am to SummerOfGeorge
Cohen was always my favorite baseball coach at State. Sure Polk made the CWS more, but Cohen made it further than Poll ever did.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:26 am to SummerOfGeorge
As a coach, I would put Tanner over Polk.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:29 am to SummerOfGeorge
Bertman is #1. I don't know where you would rank Polk, but he HAS to be on the list. He invented SEC baseball.
When Polk was hired at MSU in 1976, he was the first man in the SEC to be a fulltime baseball coach. Think about that. Baseball was such an after thought in the SEC that schools had assistant coaches and equipment managers run the teams. No one thought baseball could be profitable enough to warrant a fulltime coach.
Polk thought differently, and he got MSU to the CWS in just 4 years. In 1984, when LSU decided to hire a new coach, Polk was instrumental in getting Bertman over there and he took things to the next level.
In 1990, Georgia won the SEC's first ever CWS title. That never would have happened without Polk and Bertman laying the groundwork for SEC baseball.
When Polk was hired at MSU in 1976, he was the first man in the SEC to be a fulltime baseball coach. Think about that. Baseball was such an after thought in the SEC that schools had assistant coaches and equipment managers run the teams. No one thought baseball could be profitable enough to warrant a fulltime coach.
Polk thought differently, and he got MSU to the CWS in just 4 years. In 1984, when LSU decided to hire a new coach, Polk was instrumental in getting Bertman over there and he took things to the next level.
In 1990, Georgia won the SEC's first ever CWS title. That never would have happened without Polk and Bertman laying the groundwork for SEC baseball.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:47 am to SummerOfGeorge
So I think we can all agree that the top 4 are
1. Bertman
2. Tanner
3. Corbin or O’Sullivan
So who would be number 5? Mainieri or Polk?
1. Bertman
2. Tanner
3. Corbin or O’Sullivan
So who would be number 5? Mainieri or Polk?
Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:53 am to Dday63
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1990, Georgia won the SEC's first ever CWS title. That never would have happened without Polk and Bertman laying the groundwork for SEC baseball.
He also led UGA and Ga Southern to the CWS.Cannot have a top 5 without him.
As someone stated earlier,he's the father of modern day
SEC baseball.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:57 am to SummerOfGeorge
1. Bruce Pearl
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:05 am to AU_251
If you refer to greatest as being equal to CWS titles then Polk doesn’t make the list. If you refer to greatest as what a coach has done for SEC baseball as a whole, then Polk is without question #1.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:06 am to SummerOfGeorge
I couldn't name 5 college baseball coaches period.
People care about this shite?
People care about this shite?
Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:15 am to Vols&Shaft83
Don't make me throw a brick at your bitch arse.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:06 am to SummerOfGeorge
pretty much it
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:17 am to sta4ever
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Mainieri or Polk?
I think Polk gets the nod, even without the NCAAT, for his longevity and the whole father of the SEC thing. He also went to 7 CWS.
However, not winning one (or even getting to the title game) definitely makes it a toss up IMHO.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:41 am to SummerOfGeorge
Ron Polk also coached 7 US National teams, two times as head coach.
Lots of older Bulldogs, myself included, say that probably cost him a few more chances at Omaha.
Lots of older Bulldogs, myself included, say that probably cost him a few more chances at Omaha.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:49 am to Vols&Shaft83
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People care about this shite?
Well you clicked on the thread dubmass
Posted on 2/20/18 at 11:56 am to Vecchio Cane
Polk was instrumental in getting the high schools to upgrade their baseball programs as well. He challenged them to get better after they complained in MS (and I am sure other places as well) that he was not signing enough MS kids.
He wrote at least one book (maybe more) about the basics of baseball. He started baseball camps that were probably unheard of prior to then.
I know some cringed when he fought the NCAA over college baseball restrictions. I know some thought he was against the women's programs. He really was not though. He said we can do both. Properly fund the women's teams and enhance the CB side as well and both win.
So while he did not win a NC, he is certainly up there with the best. Had a line drive not hit Gene Morgan's ankle in 1985, we win the CWS that year. We were the best team in the Nation but that unfortunate injury in third game of the CWS derailed our chances. As we know in baseball, the best team does not always win the CWS. Weird stuff can and does happen.
As I said, Polk is the Grandfather, Bertman is the Father and then after that you can plug in a handful of Coaches.
He wrote at least one book (maybe more) about the basics of baseball. He started baseball camps that were probably unheard of prior to then.
I know some cringed when he fought the NCAA over college baseball restrictions. I know some thought he was against the women's programs. He really was not though. He said we can do both. Properly fund the women's teams and enhance the CB side as well and both win.
So while he did not win a NC, he is certainly up there with the best. Had a line drive not hit Gene Morgan's ankle in 1985, we win the CWS that year. We were the best team in the Nation but that unfortunate injury in third game of the CWS derailed our chances. As we know in baseball, the best team does not always win the CWS. Weird stuff can and does happen.
As I said, Polk is the Grandfather, Bertman is the Father and then after that you can plug in a handful of Coaches.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 12:02 pm to SummerOfGeorge
If you consider all current SEC schools, John "Hi" Simmons at Mizzou won the Natty in 1954 and had second place finishes in 1952, 1958 and 1966.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 12:06 pm to Godawgs4
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Teams like USCe, Vandy, UK, Arky and on have become power house teams.
Ummmmmm ... I know I have to keep preaching this to some, those with thicker skulls, but SC was playing for National ChampionshipS is the '70s, long before we joined the SEC.
We're one of the winningest baseball programs in the country ... but, carry-on with this "Skip prompted SC to become a powerhouse baseball program" false narrative.
FWIW, before we built Founders Park, the ole Sarge, when it was built, and then remodeled, back in the 70s ... it was considered one of the finest college baseball facilities in the country.
We had Bobby Richardson at SC before MSU hired Skip.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 12:17 pm to scrooster
I was not trying to downgrade anybody's distant past. State had great baseball teams back in the 40's through the early 70's as well.
USCe certainly had great teams as well. But from the early 1900's until 1975, the SEC treated baseball as a step-child. I mean OM promoted their Head Baseball Coach to an assistant football coach back in the 1960's. So yes, some great coaches existed through those decades but they did not get much PR or credit for it.
In the modern sense, 1975 and on, it is Polk and then later Bertman (who is the greatest coach ever in the SEC) and now guys like Tanner, Corbin, and others etc.
I would never disparage the history of a sport in any way. Great respect for the guys who did it way back.
USCe certainly had great teams as well. But from the early 1900's until 1975, the SEC treated baseball as a step-child. I mean OM promoted their Head Baseball Coach to an assistant football coach back in the 1960's. So yes, some great coaches existed through those decades but they did not get much PR or credit for it.
In the modern sense, 1975 and on, it is Polk and then later Bertman (who is the greatest coach ever in the SEC) and now guys like Tanner, Corbin, and others etc.
I would never disparage the history of a sport in any way. Great respect for the guys who did it way back.
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