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re: Question for Alabama alumni

Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by BamaChemE
Midland, TX
Member since Feb 2012
7140 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:10 pm to
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I'm not a fan of this growth. When I was there in the 80's we had 15-17k students. In 2005 we had 19,000 students. 10 years later we have 37,000. My son regularly has 250 students in his class and it's hell to get an appointment with an adviser. I had to raise hell (and pull alumni connected shite) last semester to move his appointment up from a month away. As a parent I'm ready to pull him out. Honest truth.

Slow the growth down and manage it right first


You should let your son be an adult and handle his own shite. I dislike that college students are still too often regarded as kids and that a university is just an extension of the public school system. These "kids" are making an investment into their future careers and should act like professionals (or at the very least accept responsibilities for their actions and not run to mommy and daddy when partying too much results in poor grades)
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:12 pm to
Interesting read on the subject matter (note: not a recent article)

LINK
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2843 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:16 pm to
I disagree. My daughter has had a wonderful experience thus far at the University The support personnel at the College of Engineering has been awesome.

The University is better today than ever.
Posted by assassin18
Member since Sep 2015
499 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:18 pm to
its actually extremely easy to set up an appointment. The building directly behind Gorgas has advisors in there all day. You walk in, sign in and 10 minutes later one comes out and brings you into their office.
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
5021 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:27 pm to
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UAT


What the hell does UAT have to do with this topic?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:27 pm to
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How significant of an impact has the recent decade of Football success over the past decade had on both the academics and campus culture of The University of Alabama?

The University lists the MEDIAN ACT of UA's current freshman class at 27, which is up 6 points from the median of 21 in 2007 when Nick Saban took over. Additionally the University has expanded research programs and been able to invest heavily in the campus infrastructure.

I just wanted to get opinions from alumni on this topic. Have you noticed a cultural change on campus? Friends of mine who went there have been adamant that the rising academic quality, as well as the improved geographic diversity of the student body has gone a long way torwards drowning out what used to be an incredibly insular, and toxic Greek culture on campus, on top of improved academic reputation.

Can anybody corroborate this?



The process to improve the infrastructure and the makeup of the student body was put into place by Dr. Witt before the football run started, but the football run obviously supercharged the effort. The push for out of state students would not have had such success without the incredible exposure that Saban and the football program has given us.

I was there from 2003 - 2008 and the infrastructure improvements had really just started when I started, and since then have exploded. I'm honestly not sure there is a single building left on campus that is not new or hasn't been entirely renovated in the last 20 years (most in the last 10).

A lot of really good programs have gotten better and gotten more exposure (Communications, Accounting) and a lot of previously mediocre programs have received huge upgrades in funds and faculty upgrades.

Another one of the biggest thing Alabama has been able to do is continue to pay their professors and other staff well while other state institutions have faced serious issues in that environment.

Long rambling answer, but to summarize, it is a different place than it was even 12 years ago when I started, but I think that most of the change has been for the better. And the football program, including Saban's non-stop selling of the University and the program, have had a lot to do with it.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 7:33 pm
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
5021 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:30 pm to
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15 million dollars +. Biggest in the country



That is right on the money with what my sorority is about to spend
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31793 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:32 pm to
I'll dispense with a long answer simply by saying that [the campus] has changed a lot since I was last there.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41895 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:34 pm to
lulz

That would be the "Degree that isn't worth Doo Doo" Board.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4557 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:35 pm to
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You should let your son be an adult and handle his own shite


Hey, if I'm paying for it then it's a combined effort. I wish my parents had been a little more involved in my choices at that time. The school has grown too fast and you guys have no frame of reference. 19k to 37k in 10 years is too fast.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4557 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:38 pm to
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I'm a senior and I've had a biology class and a couple of BS electives that were that big. The classes that matter are usually 30-60 people.


Every class matters or why the hell do you take it?
Posted by Big Wooly Mammoth
Member since Apr 2013
214 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:45 pm to
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Every class matters or why the hell do you take it?


Because you are required to take science, history, english, literature, etc. My major is finance so why do I need to know about mitosis?
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30286 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:52 pm to
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Every class matters or why the hell do you take it?

You serious?

That computer science class I had to take as part of my pre-med major didn't matter and still doesn't matter to every pre-med major.

Why the frick to we want to learn program coding?

Oh and most electives are fillers that boost the price of education.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:55 pm to
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Oh and most electives are fillers that boost the price of education.


Wait, you mean my elective Civil War History class isn't going to help me finish up my audit of Habitat for Humanity of Atlanta?

Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24347 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:57 pm to
Graduated in 08. Only large class that I really had was Biology
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:59 pm to
Graduated from under-grad in 2007. My largest classes were the History intro classes (Euro and American) in Ten Hoor and a few of the 200 level Sophomore business classes (Macro, Micro, Statistics, etc). And Art History, those classes were always pretty large.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 8:00 pm
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
6857 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:00 pm to
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The University is better today than ever.



I would say it's also becoming a more diverse and accepting place every year. In addition to out-of-state, there's a big international scene here too.



I'll hark on sports too, but Nick Saban's effect on the NON FOOTBALL aspect of things.


I do think that the Championship scene has spilled into our other sports too. Alabama as a football-only school is true still in terms of revenue, but when football is booming, it brings money to everyone, including those not putting on helmets.

When I was at school, only the gymnastics team was anything to really brag about since they were literally the only other program with a national title and were doing it with the benefit of living legend at coach.

Now multiple sports are elite programs, Alabama is genuinely trying to becoming a premiere destination for any and all athletes. We want to be like Florida, Stanford or Texas, schools where, no matter the sport, when Alabama pops on the schedule, it will be a tough night. Right now in fact, I can only think of one or two programs left that are still push-overs.

This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 8:01 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:07 pm to
Agree, wrath, totally agree. The University is making an effort to be an elite program and the school is making an effort to become a very good state school in the same breath with Georgia, Florida, etc. They might not be able to accomplish that, but they are working their asses off to try, and I'm a big fan of that.

Also, the diversity and the breaking down of some of the uglier old barriers of the Old South has been fantastic. Hopefully that continues.
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:18 pm to
It sucks. They're getting a bunch of smart kids and Yankees. Drive through campus now-a-days and the beauty factor of the girls has dropped 1 - 1.5 points.

It's tough to get your kid in and it costs a crap-load of money too. Just sucks.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:22 pm to
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Every class matters or why the hell do you take it?
Yeah, my Into to Religion class is sure useful with my engineering degree.
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