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Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:21 pm to OU Guy
Alabama has done that already
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:40 pm to BLG
if they did no one told anyone about it....... article said OU was the first college team to do it... paying with education nutrition isnt the same as cash bro lol.
To be clear this isnt just the starters subs this is the whole team walk on up 115 people first of its kind.
To be clear this isnt just the starters subs this is the whole team walk on up 115 people first of its kind.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 1/14/23 at 11:02 am to OU Guy
Oklahoma is not the first to offer a whole team compensation package.
Built Brands offers compensation to all 123 team members at BYU
That was in 2021
Built Brands offers compensation to all 123 team members at BYU
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Built Brands—a company that produces protein, protein bars and energy products—announced a multi-year NIL agreement that will include compensation to all 123 members of the Cougars' football team as well as provide full tuition for walk-on players.
That was in 2021
This post was edited on 1/14/23 at 11:06 am
Posted on 1/14/23 at 11:08 am to Hback
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When I was a kid and played baseball, we also had sponsors like that, and their names went on the jersey etc.
They paid for our jerseys and the equipment we used in return, but not our gloves or shoes.
I guess they ripped us off on the money part though, because I never even got a stick of gum.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 11:11 am to OU Guy
I’ve said this all along, if it’s going to be a thing at all, it should be distributed across the board.
The stud players cannot develop without tackling dummies and scout team players.
The way it is now just divides locker rooms, Oklahoma got it right imo!
The stud players cannot develop without tackling dummies and scout team players.
The way it is now just divides locker rooms, Oklahoma got it right imo!
Posted on 1/14/23 at 11:14 am to pankReb
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That is....unless you're for getting rid of capitalism.
Endlessly amused that people here think free market principles should go out the window because a game they watch may not be as entertaining anymore.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 11:34 am to deeprig9
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I disagree. If the NCAA put a cap on teams, sure someone could sue, but it would be up to a judge or judges to decide if that was legal. And if it's not legal, bye bye NFL. Bye Bye MLB. Bye Bye NBA. What judge is going to do this?
And then conferences can just stick a middle finger to NCAA and leave them. NCAA lost its power some time ago by chasing athletes who ate a 2nd helping of food.
In 2013 due to NCAA overeach the Sooners elected to self-report three players for getting more food at a graduation banquet than they should have, according to The Oklahoman.
The violations occurred on May 10, 2013, according to the newspaper, with pasta being the specific item in question.
To have their eligibility reinstated, the three had to donate $3.83 each (the cost of the pasta servings) to charities of their choice.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 11:59 am to OU Guy
This is sick, NCAA needs to be disbanded with horrid decisions and monitoring free meals, etc. I just do not want to see the gap between haves and have nots grow even wider with NIL. Perhaps some rules around these collectives. However, for a players true NIL, this should be unlimited just as it is for the pro’s. I know it’s great for the perennial top 10 right now, but CFB could go to a whole new level if competition increased. I would think these collectives get capped at some point.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 1:08 pm to deeprig9
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NFL.
MLB.
NBA.
Each of those organizations have a collective bargaining agreement with all of the athletes in a union. The NCAA can't limit what college athletes any more than IBM can decide what all electrical engineers' maximum salaries across the country can be or Microsoft can decide what the maximum salary for all software engineers across the country can be. Such an attempt would not only be laughed away by any judge, regardless of their political leanings (everyone seems to hate NCAA), but any actual attempt to enforce such a thing would violate: the 14th amendment to U.S. Constituion, just about just about every other labor written since 1900, and a slew of trade laws.
The only way through to get artificail caps on what the players can make is to either have the players unionize (which I'm very much against myself), or repeal the 14th amendment and adjust federal labor/trade laws accordingly.
Otherwise, we'd all better get good at this. The sooner the better.
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The way it is now just divides locker rooms,
Then why doesn't it 'divide' NFL locker rooms, where the differences in pay are vast and usually highly publicized?
This post was edited on 1/14/23 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 1/14/23 at 1:46 pm to Cocotheape
Is it a free market when most university athletic programs exist solely because of taxpayer funding ? The easiest way to clean up collegiate sports is to insist that student athletes actually are students working towards a valid degree. Would the quality on the field suffer ?
Sure, but the farce of a tax payer funded minor league for the NFL might take a back seat
to educational goals for a change.
Sure, but the farce of a tax payer funded minor league for the NFL might take a back seat
to educational goals for a change.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:45 pm to Rebelinexile
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taxpayer funding
What’s taxpayer funded about it? SEC football programs are income generators and generally pay for themselves + however many other sports the school has.
NFL teams probably use more taxpayer funding via their subsidized stadiums.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 8:09 pm to FLObserver
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This whole NIL thing is just getting stupid.
It’s not as stupid as grown men and women living and dying over the results of college football games, which is why all this money is available in the first place.
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I like that the whole team is rewarded but the money being tossed to kids that are usually between ages from 18- 21. Most have no experience with money and have no concept of what to do with it.
Better to start adulthood with big money than no money.
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Throw this in with the transfer portal and what are we teaching these kids?
That they have a rare talent that’s very profitable but only for a short period of time. Get as much out of it as you can.
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All this before most have reached the age of 22.
If you don’t like it, quit contributing to it. Lots of actors, singers, and entrepreneurs were famous millionaires before 22. No one is bitching about that.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 8:11 pm to OU Guy
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The problem is, SCOTUS didn’t put any caps in place.
If I want to give my money to a college ball player - and believe me, I don't - but if I did, what business is it of SCOTUS ? That ball player is a free adult. I'm a free adult. And playing college ball isn't illegal. Why shouldn't I be able to pay the kid ?
It is, after all, my money.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 8:18 pm to paperwasp
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“We give everybody the same medical care, academic support, food service. Same scholarship. So if we’re going to do this, then everybody is going to benefit equally,” Saban told the Associated Press. “I’m not going to create a caste system on our team.”
Well said Nick, it would be cool if this line of thinking works out.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 8:38 pm to Clark14
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“I’m not going to create a caste system on our team.”
You already have that with scholarship players and walk-ons, starters and non-starters. When it comes to pay, there’s a caste system everywhere you work. Middle managers don’t make what the C-Suite execs do.
The only reason you people don’t like this shite is because you want players to play for your school because they love the school like you do.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 8:43 pm to Westbank111
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The stud players cannot develop without tackling dummies and scout team players.
The way it is now just divides locker rooms, Oklahoma got it right imo!
horseshite.
The Walmart execs can’t make what they do without the stock boys and truck drivers either. Should they all make the same money? Are you guys socialist?
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