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Oklahoma-focused Crimson and Cream announces teamwide NIL deal for entire football roster
Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:49 pm
Wow, this is the way to go. I suspect all the big schools will follow suit soon.
Crimson and Cream announced Friday it’s signed or has offered a NIL deal to the entire 115-member Sooner football roster. The deals include every player currently on scholarship, walk-ons, transfers and even mid-year recruits enrolled for the spring semester.
“Everybody. All the portal kids. All the mid-year freshmen that are enrolling early. I don’t know what other schools have done. But I think we’re the first – if not one of the first – school to have everybody on a FBS roster fully signed to what is a multi, multi-million-dollar payroll.”
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Crimson and Cream announced Friday it’s signed or has offered a NIL deal to the entire 115-member Sooner football roster. The deals include every player currently on scholarship, walk-ons, transfers and even mid-year recruits enrolled for the spring semester.
“Everybody. All the portal kids. All the mid-year freshmen that are enrolling early. I don’t know what other schools have done. But I think we’re the first – if not one of the first – school to have everybody on a FBS roster fully signed to what is a multi, multi-million-dollar payroll.”
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:17 pm to OU Guy
This whole NIL thing is just getting stupid. I like that the whole team is rewarded but the money being tossed to kids that are usually between ages from 18- 21. Most have no experience with money and have no concept of what to do with it. Are these deals really for the parents and immediate family? Where does this stop? Will there be caps on NIL? Most schools are struggling financially, and they are signing freshman to million dollar deals with no guarantee the kid will pan out.
I'm all for the kids getting paid but at least wait to see if they are worth it like the NFL rookie contracts. Throw this in with the transfer portal and what are we teaching these kids? Here's a bunch of money because you were good in high school and if your first or second year doesnt work out you can leave or even better if you are good you can transfer to another school for more money. All this before most have reached the age of 22.
I'm all for the kids getting paid but at least wait to see if they are worth it like the NFL rookie contracts. Throw this in with the transfer portal and what are we teaching these kids? Here's a bunch of money because you were good in high school and if your first or second year doesnt work out you can leave or even better if you are good you can transfer to another school for more money. All this before most have reached the age of 22.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:24 pm to FLObserver
The problem is, SCOTUS didn’t put any caps in place. The weakened NCAA is now powerless to figure it out and likely scared of trying a cap so as not to overstep SCOTUS ruling.
NFL has a union and CBA. The college players will have to create a union to ever get a cap in place. They could then take a chunk of the TV money by doing so. But likely at expense of schools getting decreased TV money.
I don’t see any other way to have a cap other than if all college players form a union. Until then these NIL groups will be how the lesser known players get paid.
NFL has a union and CBA. The college players will have to create a union to ever get a cap in place. They could then take a chunk of the TV money by doing so. But likely at expense of schools getting decreased TV money.
I don’t see any other way to have a cap other than if all college players form a union. Until then these NIL groups will be how the lesser known players get paid.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:29 pm to OU Guy
How about a little less creaming in your thread titles. You'll only get the Aggies with Jars worked up
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:30 pm to OU Guy
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Crimson and Cream
Sounds like some kind of vaginal disorder.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:32 pm to OU Guy
quote:I don't see why high-school or college players would choose to form a union to cap their own revenue potential?
The problem is, SCOTUS didn’t put any caps in place. The weakened NCAA is now powerless to figure it out and likely scared of trying a cap so as not to overstep SCOTUS ruling.
NFL has a union and CBA. The college players will have to create a union to ever get a cap in place. They could then take a chunk of the TV money by doing so. But likely at expense of schools getting decreased TV money.
I don’t see any other way to have a cap other than if all college players form a union. Until then these NIL groups will be how the lesser known players get paid.
It's every man for himself, every parent and agent or themselves.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:33 pm to LouisvilleKat
Got that covered:
QB General Booty has released The General's Crimson Cream and will give a portion of the proceeds to the Wounded Warrior Project
QB General Booty has released The General's Crimson Cream and will give a portion of the proceeds to the Wounded Warrior Project
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:36 pm to OU Guy
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I suspect all the big schools will follow suit soon
Too late.
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April 19, 2022
Last week, Alabama football coach Nick Saban floated a rather radical concept where the spiraling impact of name, image, and likeness revenue for athletes is concerned: equalize it. Allow the increasing flow of NIL payments to lift every boat in the harbor.
It’s an interesting notion – reward the left guard commensurate with the quarterback, or at least establish a higher floor for all that would bring some semblance of balance to an NIL landscape that has quickly forged a reputation for imbalance.
“We give everybody the same medical care, academic support, food service. Same scholarship. So if we’re going to do this, then everybody is going to benefit equally,” Saban told the Associated Press. “I’m not going to create a caste system on our team.”
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:38 pm to RT1941
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don't see why high-school or college players would choose to form a union to cap their own revenue potential? It's every man for himself, every parent and agent or themselves.
Actually good point. But if the majority of players in P5 formed union they now have power. What would be a good estimate of low or underpaid players? 80%? So by formimg a union they could strike and with no football those higher level paid players can’t play football. And it might hurt them for NFL draft. No play means NFL draft is a gamble. So, the 80% would force the 20% to join and collectively they would bargain with TV for money rights.
Not wanting that myself, but figure its the only way to get a cap. But I could see a union as hurtful long term as what else will they demand?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:49 pm to OU Guy
That got SMU the death penalty but now it’s the wave of the future!
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:59 pm to OU Guy
Wasn’t there a fund raising campaign to raise money for Crimson and Cream and OU raised 1.6 million? I guess everybody gets a free breakfast at Jimmy’s EGG.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 2:12 pm to roobedoo
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Wasn’t there a fund raising campaign to raise money for Crimson and Cream and OU raised 1.6 million? I guess everybody gets a free breakfast at Jimmy’s EGG.
That number was matched to 3.2 mil total just for football players from one collective to end the year . OU has like 5 collectives I think 3 associated and ran by boards at OU.Venables wants everyone to earn 50k a year and all the rover personal deals you want on your own.
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 2:53 pm to FLObserver
Pay or get left behind.
The smartest move would be for a conference not in the B2 to announce a conference NIL and split their pot 1 extra way. EX - B12 split their pot 15 instead of 14 ways (actually I think they give a share to the league so it might be 16, but it would raise the conference to the clear #3 league for acquiring talent.
The smartest move would be for a conference not in the B2 to announce a conference NIL and split their pot 1 extra way. EX - B12 split their pot 15 instead of 14 ways (actually I think they give a share to the league so it might be 16, but it would raise the conference to the clear #3 league for acquiring talent.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 3:09 pm to BurgTiger
Have the NFLPA negotiate on their behalf. Say a sliding scale based on a percentage of the current rookie contract, with incentives for years played, Bowl appearances, GPA etc.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 3:17 pm to FLObserver
The issue right now is NIL cannot be regulated or capped any more than other type of business because there is absolutely no legal way to do so. The only thing he NCAA can do is say you cannot use it to recruit and there is no way to prove that unless you put it down on paper. A kid can let it slip but they can easily claim ignorance about the rules and say that they just feel like they get paid for TDs or sacks. That is all they have authority to enforce rules.
Like was mentioned above, they need to get the players to unionize and have a CBA. That's really it. Only way to cap anything NIL related and regulate the transfers. Offer the kids a piece of the athletic department's revenue in exchange for them limiting the aggregate NIL a team can have and their mobility between teams. The NCAA and schools get sued for collusion otherwise.
Like was mentioned above, they need to get the players to unionize and have a CBA. That's really it. Only way to cap anything NIL related and regulate the transfers. Offer the kids a piece of the athletic department's revenue in exchange for them limiting the aggregate NIL a team can have and their mobility between teams. The NCAA and schools get sued for collusion otherwise.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 3:17 pm to OU Guy
Why I thought Crimson and Cream was an ice cream shop? Lol
Posted on 1/13/23 at 3:32 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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The issue right now is NIL cannot be regulated or capped any more than other type of business because there is absolutely no legal way to do so.
I disagree.
If the NCAA put a cap on teams, sure someone could sue, but it would be up to a judge or judges to decide if that was legal. And if it's not legal, bye bye NFL.
Bye Bye MLB.
Bye Bye NBA.
What judge is going to do this?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 3:51 pm to deeprig9
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I disagree.
If the NCAA put a cap on teams, sure someone could sue, but it would be up to a judge or judges to decide if that was legal. And if it's not legal, bye bye NFL.
Bye Bye MLB.
Bye Bye NBA.
What judge is going to do this?
Uhhh... you ever hear of this thing called a Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA)? Something that all of the organizations you listed have and allows "collectively agreed" upon limitations to salary... something that is strangely missing in the NCAA.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 3:59 pm to OU Guy
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The problem is, SCOTUS didn’t put any caps in place.
the entire point is the fact that you cannot cap how much money you make off of your NIL.
That is....unless you're for getting rid of capitalism.
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