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re: when did you become a fan?

Posted by ouflak on 9/25/26 at 1:49 am to
I was literally born on campus (University Hospital, OKC). Both my parents were big fans. One of my earliest memories is attending a game.

re: Is Auburn a fun road trip?

Posted by ouflak on 9/12/26 at 7:44 am to
I have good memories, yes.
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...every member institution should be just as alarmed about this as we are. This entire conference will continue to play second fiddle to the B1G as long as Sankey is at the helm.


Yep, we all know where the problem is. The solution should have been implemented years ago.
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Did Sankey negotiate ours?


Yes (but it was also approved by the then member Presidents/regents as well, so he's not totally alone in blame).
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Given what was at stake for the Tigers, the result should not come as a surprise. According to the school's filing with the NCAA, of its athletic department's $223.5 million in total revenue for fiscal year 2025, nearly a third was tied to its membership in the SEC, including $53.1 million from media rights and $16.4 million in conference distributions. The $69.5 million total topped the $65.7 million the athletic department received in donations and its $53.6 million in ticket sales. No other revenue stream exceeded $11 million


And that is less than what Rutgers brought in from their 2025 B1G distributions.

That fact alone tells you who should Really be expelled.
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Do the math.


The math is very clearly not in the SEC's favor, and will not be for years to come. I do blame Sankey for a lot on that, and justifiably so. But didn't the University Presidents/Regents have to approve that nonsense media contract? As soon as he presented that to them, their very next action should have been a vote-of-no-confidence. It should never have gone farther than that.

All we can hope now is that Sankey gets the boot and the lesson is learned.
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If there is no vote tomorrow, Sankey is gone.


Wonderful news if true. And long overdue. But I suspect life just isn't going to work out so conveniently as that.
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There's a common opinion here that because the SEC is a "voluntary" association, they can make and enforce any rule as they see fit without pushback from the courts.


Can you imagine the mayhem if that were actually true? Corporations around the country would immediately form and join their own 'volunteer' associations overnight, and then make whatever rules they like regardless of anti-trust laws, labor laws, interstate commerce, any state laws, etc.... If ever challenged, they would just cite the 1st Amendment 'Right of Association' as reason to just print money and get away with literally any behavior imaginable without any restraint.

Sorry Sankey, the SEC is not sovereign from the United States. If the NCAA and the Universities have to follow the laws of the land, the SEC does too.
I'm thinking a Goodfellas mobster style ending for Sankey. He idiotically tries to expel a school for embarrassing himself badly in front of the entire CFB nation with that lousy media contract, bumbling court appearance hypocrisy, and suggesting voting out a member of the conference. But he ends up being the one voted out.

re: Anyone watch Devs (FX) ?

Posted by ouflak on 9/7/26 at 12:49 pm to
Yeah I watched this through and mostly liked it. The ending was a bit strange, but that wasn't exactly inconsistent. The leading actress and her boyfriend clearly didn't have any natural chemistry in real life, and frankly I'm not so sure she's the strongest actress. But curiously, I think that kind of fit in with the mood this series was trying to get across - almost a surrealistic detached atmosphere (never watched Shogun, so don't know the comparison). There were some small logical leaps-of-faith you kind of had to glaze over. Pretty good production. I'd overall recommend it.
I go there often for movies/shows I'd never heard or previously. If the general consensus (no matter what the rating) is that it's the kind of movie I thought it was upon hearing about it, then I'm likely to give that flick/series a go. I will investigate further if the rating is far lower or far higher than I might expect, in particular looking out for spoilers to get a real grip on why that might be.

Never knew that IMDB once had dedicated message boards. That must have been a golden age. Wish they still had something like that.
I am kind of wondering if their performance against Central Michigan wasn't partly because they've been putting all of their eggs in the beat/OU - beat/OSU baskets in the off-season. I would be cautious here.

re: SEC sues LSU and Lane Kiffin

Posted by ouflak on 9/3/26 at 12:26 pm to
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"Defendants waged a deliberate and coordinated campaign to recruit professional athletes to play football for LSU during the 2026-27 season."


Does anybody have the exact wording of the lawsuit? Because recruiting NFL players doesn't really sound like a sueable thing.
I read through this thread and I still haven't see the answer. So just adding to the echo chamber and hoping to get an actual response.

Who is the SEC suing federally? The NFL? The student athletes? The schools? The NCAA? All of the above or some combination?
If we can stay away from granting exemptions from following the established laws of the land, and squashing the legal protections and rights of student athletes, I think there is a vast opportunity for college sports to thrive.

Hearing myself profess this reminds of arguments I've made about immigration law: We don't need new laws and 'rights' and appalling exemptions. Just follow and adhere to the laws that already exist and everybody who wants to make money can make plenty of money.

Will I miss the days bag men, and the illicit houses/jobs for parents, 'grey' shirting, injuries equalling loss of scholarship, coaches/admins making seven figures while the athletes are getting in trouble for having an extra meal? No.

No. Surprisingly, I won't miss those days.

I will miss knowing the rosters inside and out. I already miss the days when I knew every head coach in the conference and a pretty large percentage of those at the major schools - something I lost track of years ago. I've never been a fan of the NFL and that was part of the reason. But I'd rather have NFL-lite than ever have the disgusting NCAA have any disgusting exemptions. The NCAA can burn in every plane of existence. Hell is already assured.
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When does the IRS consider someone a professional?


The IRS doesn't care. Their motto: "You make money, you pay taxes."

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Thus earning an income for services rendered would constitute professionalism?


For the Internal GAT BoilerPickle Doc Service, maybe that's a thing. But the IRS could care less. I think it's on their official seal "Ostende mihi pecuniam " (Show me da money).

re: Big East says they'll take all the pros

Posted by ouflak on 8/28/26 at 9:41 am to
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This is exactly why suits against the SEC or other conferences are meritless. The NCAA is vulnerable to antitrust cases as a monopoly.


Not quite. Certainly monopoly is one plausible weakness. But there plenty existing commerce, anti-trust, and labor laws that are at the forefront of all of the winning lawsuits. And even more applicably, these are almost all state and federal funded public institutions, meaning they far more sensitive to Constitutional concerns.

There is the argument that since a conference is smaller, maybe it can slip through. But these are interstate conferences - again composed of mostly public institutions. The laws are decidedly not on their side on this issue. It will be very difficult.
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I'm not sure that you can do a collective bargaining agreement with the players becoming employees, and that opens up a real can of worms that everyone (players included) has been reluctant to get into.


Also, I kind of think that the current student athletes (not former ones and a judge who don't have live with consequences, but current) have to be the driver for that process on a national scale. There are some very good reasons why they don't want to do anything like that.

And at a federal level, a CBA, limited by long standing federal laws, wouldn't address a lot of issues. You can't cap pay with a nation-wide union, which is what I'm pretty sure a lot of people here are complaining about (I'm not, it's none of my business, but that's me I guess). You couldn't cap transfers either.

re: Is Sankey sunk?

Posted by ouflak on 8/28/26 at 8:56 am to
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You disagree with what?


That college sports can't operate just fine without exemptions and squashing the legal protections of student athletes. In fact, I think it could thrive.

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There are no rules in this business model. Antitrust exemptions exist for every sport that has a contract, but not college sports.


Because college sports is almost entirely composed of state and federally funded institutions. That's a BIG DIFFERENCE.

And to be strictly picky, not every sport. The NFL, NBA, and, indirectly through a Supreme Court ruling, MLB. That's it as far I'm aware.

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So I have no idea what you think is being violated here.


Generally, trying to artificially limit the mobility of citizens to legally earn money wherever they can is prohibited (anti-trust, commerce laws, some labor laws indirectly). It's a big reason why the courts are slamming this stuff facedown into the ground. Also these are public institutions, so trying to capriciously, in broad strokes, say that some group of students can't even try to participate at a sponsored program at that institution (whether they qualify or not) is a BIG NO NO.

re: Is Sankey sunk?

Posted by ouflak on 8/28/26 at 7:51 am to
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t would have been great if Congress hadn't opened this can of worms to start with. They can also close it with an antitrust exemption. That solves the entire legal process. Not to mention, it will ultimately be the only way college football survives and sustains itself.


I disagree, but this point is starting to wander a bit off-topic. That said, if college sports can't operate within the confines of the current laws of this land, especially the rather fundamental commerce, anti-trust, and labor laws they are trying to worm from under, then college sports should just go away.

In my opinion, all of those laws as they are written, and the Constitution that backs them up, are just fine. They only need following and adhering to, and college sports can thrive. No exemptions needed.

But I don't mind if Sankey is the one that goes away anyway.

re: Is Sankey sunk?

Posted by ouflak on 8/28/26 at 5:53 am to
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So you don't like him, so what? He's not always right, but he certainly isn't always wrong. The conferences are going to have to fight rogue judges every step of the way. Again, so what? You don't give in, and you don't give up. The SEC and B1G will fight NFL transfers as long as it takes. This court move was more than predictable; that's not a Greg Sankey problem.


The problem is interstate commerce and anti-trust laws. The Supreme Court historically has dimly looked down on any attempts to get around those. In order to convince the courts that you should especially be allowed from under the thumb of those laws, you need to either have a life-or-death argument (with actual dead bodies and a supporting coroner's report to show for it) or you'd better have very a specific tailored Congressional antitrust exemption in hand.

Neither the NCAA or the SEC have either of those, I'm pretty sure.