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re: Ok, just saw the Devin white hit.

Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:30 am to
Posted by CrimsonBoz
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:30 am to
Still haven’t seen a link provided to the hit, all I have is a still shot so that’s all I can comment on.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:31 am to
LINK

It's been linked several times ITT. Just FYI.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:31 am to
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So would the crown of a helmet to the collar bone count?


That is the failure of the rule. The language gives to much latitude to the refs to interpret. I saw the reply on this link which seem to be the best out there.

LINK

Fitz was defenseless in the situation so that meets a criteria. It appears he left his feet after the ball is released and if the ref determines he launched that just adds to the refs opinion. In the first view it shows his helmet was hit via contact either by White's helmet or his hand. The 2nd and 3rd look more like the hand then helmet and he made contact around the neck, which still meets the definition of the rule but that Fitz was turning his head as White was making contact.

So again by the definition of the law and latitude given to the refs the call was made within the letter of the law according to the language. But the failure is on intent. I do not see intent but that is subjective whether in the language or not because in my opinion in so many including this hit weighs when the ref determines if it is and the player is ejected and why I think an appeal you should be in place.

I understand this is about player safety and dealing with time constraints of the game have no issue with the ruling on the field and the ejection but do believe it should not affect the next game and he should be allowed to play. If there was an appeal in place I believe he would be playing the whole game against us.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:33 am to
No the Wilson hit. Where is that link? I’ve already watched and made comment on the White hit.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:35 am to
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It appears he left his feet after the ball is released and if the ref determines he launched that just adds to the refs opinion.


He never left his feet. He was running.

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In the first view it shows his helmet was hit via contact either by White's helmet or his hand. The 2nd and 3rd look more like the hand then helmet and he made contact around the neck, which still meets the definition of the rule but that Fitz was turning his head as White was making contact.


White made contact with Fitz in the same exact spot that Wilson made contact with UT's QB. High on the chest.

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So again by the definition of the law and latitude given to the refs the call was made within the letter of the law according to the language.


Repeating this doesn't make it correct. For the last time, there is no forcible contact to Fitzgerald's neck or head.

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But the failure is on intent. I do not see intent but that is subjective whether in the language or not because in my opinion in so many including this hit weighs when the ref determines if it is and the player is ejected and why I think an appeal you should be in place.


Wrong. The failure was the refs and replay officals determining that there was forcible (there's that word again) contact to the head or neck.
Posted by Jrv2damac
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:41 am to
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Osama Bin Laden on the 9/11 hijackers "They just bumped the planes into the buildings"


You’re the stupidest Auburn poster on this board.

At least MrsGarrison is just a troll. You’re the real deal.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:41 am to
The part you left out is defenseless, do you think he was?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:43 am to
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The part you left out is defenseless, do you think he was?


So Fitz was defenseless after just throwing the ball but the UT QB wasn't?

I'd like to see you explain that one as well.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:44 am to
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Wrong. The failure was the refs and replay officals determining that there was forcible (there's that word again) contact to the head or neck.


Which I agree but see it as the intent based on their subjective opinion was it forcible and I agree it was not. That is the issue I have with it and we seem to agree on that part. And why I think there needs to be an appeal process because that language of using "forcible" is subjective.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:44 am to
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Jrv2damac


You are the most triggered fan on this board
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:47 am to
Stop comparing the two I’m trying to break down one of these first. Do you think he was defenseless by rule?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:49 am to
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Which I agree but see it as the intent based on their subjective opinion was it forcible and I agree it was not. That is the issue I have with it and we seem to agree on that part. And why I think there needs to be an appeal process because that language of using "forcible" is subjective.


I'm not trying to argue, just pointing this out again:

Wilson

White

Anyone who looks at these two hits and says one is targeting and the other isn't is either a massive homer or trolling. Neither is targeting and neither call should ever be upheld.

How the replay officials did so to White is beyond me.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:49 am to
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You are the most triggered fan on this board


And you’re just another Arkansas fan trying to salvage his existence with trolling and awful analysis

A common sight here honestly
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:50 am to
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Stop comparing the two I’m trying to break down one of these first. Do you think he was defenseless by rule?


I'm not going to stop comparing something that shows your hypocrisy. Either both are targeting or neither is.

It's that simple.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:50 am to
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And you’re just another Arkansas fan trying to salvage his existence with trolling and awful analysis 

A common sight here honestly


Yep ^ still mad...
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65068 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:51 am to
Yes, cycle through your SEC rant catch phrase Rolodex

Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:52 am to
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Devin White also launched himself into Fitzgerald


No he did not.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:52 am to
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Yes, cycle through your SEC rant catch phrase Rolodex


Just doing what LSU fans do
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:53 am to
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RB10


I'm sure you have posted a bunch on the subject but do you think it just comes down to bad refs making a terrible call or do you believe there is something more to it?
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65068 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:55 am to
I can call a poster stupid for using 9/11 as a comparison to an argument about a football personal foul without being mad

But keep making good use of your break time at Kroger’s
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