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NY Times - Ranking CFB's Biggest Underachievers of All Time

Posted on 10/14/26 at 11:34 pm
Posted by FAT SEXY
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 11:34 pm
The Rice Owls come in at #10 - THE REAL SLEEPING GIANT

NYT - The Athletic - Apparently a Paywall for most

Quoting their list for those that can't read it.

Aggy is finally ranked #1 in something

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10. Rice
9. UCLA
8. Wisconsin
7. Virginia
6. North Carolina
5. Illinois
4. Florida
3. Stanford
2. South Carolina
1. Texas A&M


Memphis, South Florida, Cal and Michigan State are listed as Honorable Mentions.

Not sure I agree with this entire list.. Florida has a couple of titles in the 2000's, though they've sucked recently. Wisconsin has mostly been solid this Century.
This post was edited on 10/14/26 at 11:42 pm
Posted by SEC Doctor
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 11:39 pm to
Paywall dude.
Posted by FAT SEXY
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 11:40 pm to
I don't subscribe and read the entire article.
Posted by TommyM
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 11:47 pm to
Rice though?

Eh I guess if Tulane can make the playoffs.
This post was edited on 10/14/26 at 11:52 pm
Posted by FAT SEXY
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 11:51 pm to
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Rice though?


Their reasoning boils down to the fact that Rice is rich AF and is in one of the biggest recruiting hotbeds in the country (Houston)

Their quote:

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10. Rice
Why they belong: The Owls are in one of the best recruiting cities (Houston) and were in the same athletic revenue tier as Boise State, Colorado State and Fresno State. The university as a whole has plenty of money, too, with an $8 billion endowment. But the Owls haven’t appeared in the AP rankings in more than 60 years. In the three decades since the Southwest Conference split, Rice has only one conference championship in the sport’s lower rungs.

Yeah, but: Expectations are extremely low, as evidenced by President John F. Kennedy comparing America’s quest to go to the moon to Rice playing Texas in 1962. A great recruiting footprint only matters so much to a private school with great academics.

Final thought: It’s unfair to expect Rice to be like Texas A&M or Houston. It is fair to expect Rice to be much more than a perennial Group of 6 loser.
Posted by theCAW
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 12:24 am to
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9. UCLA

Why they belong: The Bruins are in the best recruiting spot in a top-tier recruiting state and have produced almost as many draft picks since 1970 (242) as Texas (244). Add in a giant home stadium, the Rose Bowl, and the numbers view UCLA as a strong underachiever.

Yeah, but: UCLA is one of only three programs on this list with a national title since the AP poll became a thing in 1936 (the Bruins shared with Ohio State in 1954). Our data also doesn’t account for the local competition with traditional powerhouse USC.

Final thought: Historically, UCLA is probably a top-25 program. But the Bruins haven’t been to a major bowl game this century and have been too inconsistent — especially recently — for a program with so many inherent advantages. Since 1989, UCLA has been ranked in the preseason 14 times … and finished unranked in 10 of those years.

8. Wisconsin

Why they belong: This is not a Luke Fickell dialogue. All 12 programs that have reported more athletic revenue than Wisconsin have won at least two national titles. The Badgers have none. Shouldn’t all that Big Ten money and a top-20 stadium yield more than a winning percentage (.583) that ranks below West Virginia and Georgia Tech?

Yeah, but: The Badgers made the Rose Bowl seven times from 1993 to 2019 and were a solid, regular top-25 team in that window. Semi-recency bias could keep Wisconsin out of this group.

Final thought: Most of Wisconsin’s Midwest peers (Minnesota, Michigan, Michigan State, Iowa) have won national championships, which makes the Badgers’ drought more notable and slots them ahead of Big Ten colleague UCLA. The rise Barry Alvarez started doesn’t fully make up for all the four-win seasons Wisconsin compiled over the previous decades.

7. Virginia

Why they belong: The Cavaliers have a strong recruiting footprint in the DMV and rank in the top 40 in stadium capacity and money. Virginia’s academics and demographics make the school one of the top potential Big Ten/SEC targets in the next round of realignment. That all means the potential is there for the program to aim higher than being near the top of our previous list of the nation’s most mediocre programs.

Yeah, but: Is Virginia that much better situated than some of the other members of the ACC’s middle class? The Cavaliers have produced fewer NFL picks than Washington State, Kentucky and Syracuse, so they’re not exactly wasting talent.

Final thought: Virginia consistently ranks near the top of all-sports rankings, with national titles in six sports (including men’s basketball and baseball) since 2014. If the Cavaliers can win at that level in other sports, they should have more than two conference titles in football over the last century.

6. North Carolina

Why they belong: The Tar Heels have many of the same advantages as Virginia, plus 40 more draft picks (including Pro Football Hall of Famers Lawrence Taylor and Julius Peppers). UNC also boasts three coaches in the College Football Hall of Fame; all of them won national titles after leaving North Carolina. Bill Belichick wouldn’t have taken the UNC job if he didn’t see a lot of unrealized potential in a program that has won only seven conference titles with seven top-10 finishes over the last century.

Yeah, but: The Carolinas have improved as a recruiting territory, but the Tar Heels have a lot of local competition for those players. UNC’s status as a traditional basketball school has probably limited football’s potential historically.

Final thought: Thirty schools have started in the preseason rankings at least 20 times, according to the College Poll Archive. The Tar Heels have the highest bust percentage of them all, going from ranked to unranked 15 times (71 percent).

5. Illinois

Why they belong: Its state ranks among the top six in producing all-time and current NFL players, according to Pro-Football-Reference. The Illini haven’t done enough to capitalize on that local talent or solid positioning in finances, stadium capacity and talent acquisition. Illinois’ back-to-back win total in 2024-25 (19 victories) marks its best two-year run; that says more about how mediocre the Illini have been than about what they’re capable of.

Yeah, but: Depending on who’s keeping track, Illinois won or shared at least three national titles before 1930. Those championships have to count for something, right?

Final thought: With all due respect to Red Grange and the Illini’s triumphs before the age of color television, Illinois has underachieved in the sport’s modern era. The Illini have only seven top-25 finishes in the last 50 years and fewer all-time than Mississippi State, Duke and Navy. Not even all those years of Big Ten West schedules could get them out of our spot as the Big Ten’s biggest underachiever.
Posted by theCAW
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 12:26 am to
4. Florida

Why they belong: Hear me out. The only schools in the top 11 in all of our potential-related categories were Florida, Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, Alabama and Georgia. The Gators had seven fewer conference titles than the next-lowest (Georgia) and ranked last in finishes while losing 5 percent more of their games. Florida has top-seven potential but has historically produced results outside the top 15.

Yeah, but: The Gators won three national titles from 1996 to 2008 and came close a few other times under Steve Spurrier and Urban Meyer. Can we really call that underachieving?

Final thought: This was the toughest call because Florida’s highs are so high. But the Gators are the flagship university in a top-tier recruiting state, and have Clemson-like results when not led by Spurrier/Meyer. Florida’s spikes have been the exception, not the rule, for a program that has never made the CFP and hasn’t won an SEC title since 2008.
Posted by theCAW
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 12:27 am to
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3. Stanford

Why they belong: Stanford ranked in the top 25 in our financial metrics and NFL Draft picks, while also boasting more Hall of Fame coaches (six) than anyone but Ohio State. With that background, you’d expect more than 20 finishes in the top 25 (the last in 2017) and zero national titles in the modern era. Remember, too, that Stanford produced four No. 1 picks at quarterback (Andrew Luck, John Elway, Jim Plunkett and Bobby Garrett) with only one top-five finish to show for it.

Yeah, but: Stanford, like Cal, isn’t close to the state’s recruiting hotbeds, and its lofty academic profile limits the types of players the program can sign.

Final thought: Stanford has long been the gold standard for all-around athletic success while building a pipeline for future Olympians. Football is the outlier. Although Stanford is an ACC oddball now, that wasn’t always the case. The Cardinal shouldn’t have a worse winning percentage (.546) than Boston College, Troy or San Diego State.

2. South Carolina

Why they belong: The Gamecocks have enough money and nearby players (plus an intimidating home atmosphere) to be a strong program or at least occasionally break through. That has rarely happened. Their only three top-10 finishes came under Spurrier. The rest of South Carolina’s history is dotted with trips to the Gator Bowl thanks to a winning percentage (.509) on par with Purdue.

Yeah, but: Conference affiliation matters. Can we really blame the Gamecocks for struggling to gain footing in the SEC while battling programs like Georgia and Tennessee?
Final thought: South Carolina hasn’t claimed a conference title since winning the ACC in 1969. In-state rival Clemson has three national championships since then, showing that a team in the state can win at a high level. South Carolina just hasn’t been the one to do it. Even if the Gamecocks don’t have Florida’s potential, they’re not doing enough with it (aside from beating the Gators last week).

1. Texas A&M

Why they belong: This isn’t recency bias. The Aggies rank no lower than 17th in our potential-related statistics but lack high-end results. Texas A&M has only six ranked finishes this century and last won its conference in 1998. The Aggies squandered one of the best recruiting classes ever under Fisher and, like Stanford, have connections to six Hall of Fame coaches (including Bear Bryant and Gene Stallings, who both won it all at Alabama). The Aggies, however, have only one national title in the modern era (1939).

Yeah, but: Texas A&M’s fertile recruiting footprint is also crowded because the Aggies have had to fight nearby powers like Texas and LSU. Even with its hiccups, Texas A&M is still a top-20 historical program, so the floor has been relatively high.

Final thought: On paper, Texas A&M should be at least the second-best program on our list (alongside Florida). Yet the Aggies have fewer ranked finishes than UCLA, a worse bowl record than Rice and a winning percentage (.605) in the same neighborhood as Arizona State and Utah. Barring a turnaround, A&M will go from preseason top 25 to unranked for the 18th time. But good news, Aggies: You finally made the top of one set of rankings.
Posted by Barstools
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 12:38 am to
Notre Dame should be an honorable mention. Yes, they had a lot of success but they've been underachieving almost my entire lifetime. About half the US population was not even born the last time ND won a MNC.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 6:02 am to
How is a team with 8 SEC titles and 3 natties(not in the 1940s and 50s which I would get)one of the top ten underachievers....at all.
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 6:07 am to
Florida is legit on that list. Never had an undefeated season.
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 6:08 am to
Florida?
Posted by JamalMurry27
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 6:14 am to
What about the Texas longhorns
Posted by StringedInstruments
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 6:20 am to
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What about the Texas longhorns


Should be #1.

Supposedly the richest booster base in all of CFB with access to the most talent in the country. Also supposedly a football history on par with Alabama, Michigan, and Notre Dame.

One title in what? 40 years? 50 years?
Posted by GetPiggywithIt
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 6:21 am to
How is Rice on this list?
I know they're in Texas but they're one of the smallest schools in D1.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 6:26 am to
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10. Rice


Not sure if legit. Like Tulane and Vanderbilt, suffered the GI Bill and the rise of the state schools after WW II

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7. Virginia


Should be higher, maybe #2?

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1. Texas A&M


PRINT THE SHIRTS ALREADY!
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 6:45 am to
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Posted by New Money
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 7:23 am to
What does the NU Times know about college football?
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 7:31 am to
Posted by Hoops
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 7:33 am to
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PRINT THE SHIRTS ALREADY!


Why have a shirt when you can print a cup?!
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