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Non-Auburn perspective: Best thing for them at this point—Should he stay or go?

Posted on 2/11/22 at 7:07 am
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16133 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 7:07 am
I truly do not see an upgrade coming out of this. They get Steele or some B-list candidate. Freeze is a good coach but how does that help your image if you bring him in?

At this point it is best for them to keep him 1 more year and see if he can get things under control. You have to respect the way he stood up to the bullies. He has won everywhere he’s been. Auburn is a place you can win. Seems like he got Shanghai’d and Bamboozled from an outside perspective.

What do you think? Too late to turn back or cheaper to keep him?
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21390 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 7:15 am to
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Freeze is a good coach but how does that help your image if you bring him in?


Honest question: Could our image be any worse?
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
4478 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 7:23 am to
Ole Miss folk do love them some coach Hugh Freeze.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44391 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 7:26 am to
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Freeze is a good coach but how does that help your image if you bring him in?


Freeze is just Gus with the threat of off field scandals or sanctions always on the horizon. Better than Steele, but to spend $40 million on buyouts over 14 months just to be in a slightly worse position than you had been would be some incredible administrative mismanagement.
Posted by TideTurf
Member since Sep 2009
3193 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 7:27 am to
Right now Auburn is dammed if you do dammed if you don't. Thanks to the backstabbing booster leakage. Won't matter if it's true or not now.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 7:37 am to
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15494 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 7:45 am to

I think truly the Iron Bowl set this in motion, but it was the failure to go for the win when he had the chance. He’d given indications he wasn’t a good fit previously, but when you have your arch rival on the ropes with a chance to finish them and you play it safe you’re toast.

That he seems content to try and coach up guys that weren’t as good (on paper but let’s face it these recruiting analysts are pretty damn good) rather than work to get them would have had the torches and pitchforks out at Bama, Georgia or LSU in a hurry.

Your administration probably won’t take the advice, but cut your losses now.

For purely selfish reasons I hope you keep him.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17283 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 7:46 am to
Auburn learned nothing from Jet Gate. Keep him and he could give you 0-11 just for shits and giggles. Pay the man and move on.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21390 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 7:51 am to
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I think truly the Iron Bowl set this in motion, but it was the failure to go for the win when he had the chance.


No, the Miss State and South Carolina losses were worse. The issues really heated up in the offseason with losing coaches and players and failing to keep the moment he was building recruiting in the late fall when we got as high as 10 or 11.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18013 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 7:52 am to
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Honest question: Could our image be any worse?

Y'all stealing from any children's charity funds or covering up rapes yet?
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21390 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 7:52 am to
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Auburn learned nothing from Jet Gate. Keep him and he could give you 0-11 just for shits and giggles.


If JetGate taught us anything is you keep him, rally around him and go undefeated like the 2004 team did.

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Pay the man and move on.


I agree with you there. I think it's way too late to try and galvanize the program around him.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21390 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 7:54 am to
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Y'all stealing from any children's charity funds or covering up rapes yet?



I wouldn't be surprised at this point

Harsin has been trying to cover up the raping he endured on signing day
Posted by multicampus
Member since Oct 2021
1191 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:13 am to
"We" really don't know anything.

If Auburn had proof that he was banging his subordinate, he'd already have been fired; especially if there was proof that he had a relationship with her in Boise and then used public funds to bring her to Auburn.

If Auburn determines that the situation is completely unworkable from a football standpoint, don't quibble on the buyout. Don't try to manufacture cause. Just pay him and move on.

I raised an eyebrow at the hire, but he's also a big shift from the previous staff, and an adjustment period should be expected.
Posted by Referee
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2021
3010 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:15 am to
Let his stay! Keep this clown show going for years. We all need this entertainment. To heck with the Texas clown show, this one is better.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9482 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:18 am to
He stays for the entertainment value alone.
Posted by mthorn2
Planet Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
1234 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:23 am to
"Are you not Entertained? We are Au-burn."
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
6754 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:25 am to
Screwed either way now.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35290 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:33 am to
There is no good option. There is only a couple of poor options. They have to pick their poison.

The best option imo would have been to go about business as usual and just lay low another year with Harsin. That option is now unavailable because they wanted him gone so bad they dragged him through the mud. Can’t keep him now. But they’re stupid if they think he’s going to settle. And he’s stupid if he does. I feel like he’s been so damaged he can’t get a decent job after this anyway. He’ll sit tight and not settle. So if auburn tries to fire with cause, he’ll likely drag things out like Pruitt.

Auburns best option is to pay the man, then hire someone for a truck load of money. It’s the only way they’ll get someone decent. They’ll need to come up with 75-100 million guaranteed. And stop making public statements ffs. Shut up and just take care of your shite.

So money is the answer. They will need to spend a shite load of it.
This post was edited on 2/11/22 at 8:34 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26982 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:34 am to
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Freeze is a good coach but how does that help your image if you bring him in?



Sure. He beat Alabama twice and almost won the West in 2015.

He also had a 19-21 conference record, had a losing record to Arkansas, and lost TWICE to Vandy.

Hugh Freeze's last two SEC games...after FIVE years at Ole Miss: a 21 point loss to Vandy, and a 35 point arse whipping by Mississippi State at home.

If he's the hot coach Auburn fans want to believe he is, how in the holy hell does shite like that happen? How do you lose to Vandy by three touchdowns in year 5?

This post was edited on 2/11/22 at 9:10 am
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:43 am to
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Non-Auburn perspective: Best thing for them at this point—


Fire all the administration and boosters
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