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Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:49 am to C W
They can’t fire the boosters. That’s like saying they need to fire the owners.
They need someone who can align the boosters with the administration and the coach. Might not be possible at Auburn.
They need someone who can align the boosters with the administration and the coach. Might not be possible at Auburn.
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:53 am to rebeloke
quote:I don't think Auburn (not the fanbase) gives a shite about image or how others view them.
Freeze is a good coach but how does that help your image if you bring him in?
Posted on 2/11/22 at 9:00 am to AGGIES
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Why is Harsin being fired?
He isn't being fired...yet.
Aside from rumors of torrid love affairs and racism...
1. Turmoil and turnover with coaches.
2. He's allegedly been abusive to other coaches and players
3. Choosing not to attend large recruiting events
4. Choosing not to support former players like Bo Jackson
5. Failure to close on some recruits
6. Refusing to cooperate with the BOT
Posted on 2/11/22 at 9:01 am to RT1941
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I don't think Auburn (not the fanbase) gives a shite about image or how others view them.
I really don't care anymore.
We could hire Mother Teresa and people would still view us the same way. I say embrace it.
Posted on 2/11/22 at 9:04 am to rebeloke
Go, but I hope he doesn't.
Posted on 2/11/22 at 9:06 am to llfshoals
The Iron Bowl didn't set this in motion. He actually had a little good will after that game for how he had the kids ready to play after they really could have given up after losing their QB and the way we lost the two weeks before.
It was the utter failure in recruiting combined with the mass player and coach exodus that set the alarm bells ringing. Remember Saban was 7-6 his first year at bama if I recall correctly but he was killing it off the field and the trajectory was pretty clear.
Harsin could have easily survived 6-7 without even batting an eye given that we were competitive in pretty much every game. The off the field stuff being such a disaster is the reason for all of this.
It was the utter failure in recruiting combined with the mass player and coach exodus that set the alarm bells ringing. Remember Saban was 7-6 his first year at bama if I recall correctly but he was killing it off the field and the trajectory was pretty clear.
Harsin could have easily survived 6-7 without even batting an eye given that we were competitive in pretty much every game. The off the field stuff being such a disaster is the reason for all of this.
Posted on 2/11/22 at 9:12 am to Leto II
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1. Turmoil and turnover with coaches. 2. He's allegedly been abusive to other coaches and players 3. Choosing not to attend large recruiting events 4. Choosing not to support former players like Bo Jackson 5. Failure to close on some recruits 6. Refusing to cooperate with the BOT
Thanks. I hadn’t heard about of all these things.
3. Is missing a recruiting event a fireable offense?
4. Have no idea what the Bo Jackson thing is about.
5. Failure to close on some recruits isn’t a good reason.
Not supporting a coach one year in is a bad look. Makes it hard to attract other coaches.
But it basically just looks like a bad fit, and Auburn would rather hit the reset button and deal with the sunk costs…
Posted on 2/11/22 at 9:17 am to AGGIES
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3. Is missing a recruiting event a fireable offense?
When you are 8th or 9th in the SEC in recruiting and every other SEC coach was there...yes it should be.
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4. Have no idea what the Bo Jackson thing is about.
Skipped his charity golf event last spring. If there's one Auburn person you want on your side, Bo is the one.
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5. Failure to close on some recruits isn’t a good reason.
Isn't it? This isn't the NFL. Recruiting is a VITAL part of the job. All the Xs & Os don't mean shite without the players. And when you are missing guys because you were lazy or arrogant as has been reported, it's even more of an offense.
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But it basically just looks like a bad fit, and Auburn would rather hit the reset button and deal with the sunk costs…
Yes I agree with you. I don't think he can be effective long term.
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 9:22 am to AGGIES
He is being fired cause he will not not brown nose Yellow Fellow
Posted on 2/11/22 at 9:24 am to Leto II
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3. Is missing a recruiting event a fireable offense?
When you are 8th or 9th in the SEC in recruiting and every other SEC coach was there...yes it should be.
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4. Have no idea what the Bo Jackson thing is about.
Skipped his charity golf event last spring. If there's one Auburn person you want on your side, Bo is the one.
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5. Failure to close on some recruits isn’t a good reason.
Isn't it? This isn't the NFL. Recruiting is a VITAL part of the job. All the Xs & Os don't mean shite without the players. And when you are missing guys because you were lazy or arrogant as has been reported, it's even more of an offense.
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But it basically just looks like a bad fit, and Auburn would rather hit the reset button and deal with the sunk costs…
Yes I agree with you. I don't think he can be effective long term.
Everything you said is true.
But if you're going to start firing first-year coaches over shite like that...especially only one year after firing a guy who beat Alabama three times and played for a national championship, your program is fricked.
The odds are that the next coach will be worse, not better, than Harsin.
Posted on 2/11/22 at 9:26 am to rebeloke
After this shite storm Auburn will be lucky to hire a really good coach or decent coach till the boosters agree to stop with what they are doing. No coach is gonna want to come to auburn to only be treated like Harsin has been treated. Truth be known, Auburn should have kept Gus at this point. Harsin will not take a settlement for less to leave. If they want Harsin gone it’s gonna cost then $18 million!!!
Posted on 2/11/22 at 9:28 am to Edwardconfessor
Leto is the first reasonable Barn Fan on her. The Barn should embrace its national image as a laughing stock and clown car. Some institutions serve their fellows as a bad example. Ok lets all recite the Creed in Unisom
Posted on 2/11/22 at 9:34 am to Leto II
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The issues really heated up in the offseason with losing coaches and players
We lost players, but I think that was trimming the fat. Didn't we keep pretty much every good defensive player except the two that are going to the NFL?
Posted on 2/11/22 at 9:38 am to i am dan
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Didn't we keep pretty much every good defensive player except the two that are going to the NFL?
Yes but a lot of that was before Mason left too. I suspect he was the glue keeping that together.
Posted on 2/11/22 at 9:40 am to VolMarine1371
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Auburn should have kept Gus at this point.
Nope. Gus hit his ceiling in 2013 and was never getting back there at Auburn.
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Harsin will not take a settlement for less to leave
He will if any of these skeletons are true.
Posted on 2/11/22 at 9:54 am to Leto II
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Harsin will not take a settlement for less to leave
He will if any of these skeletons are true.
The only skeleton that should cause him to accept a settlement involves the girl.
Cold evidence of an affair, or a sexual harassment lawsuit by the girl, should result in being fired for cause.
Otherwise, the threat of prolonged investgation should result in a negotiated buyout, if he wants to protect the girl and his own family.
Otherwise, NONE of the other "skeletons" should result in a settlement. Bad recruiting and the Bo Jackson shite doesn't qualify as grounds for termination for cause, and Harsin would be a moron to settle for less than the full amount of his buyout.
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 10:00 am to BamaGradinTn
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Otherwise, NONE of the other "skeletons" should result in a settlement.
Well I don't have a copy of his contract. Could you post a link to it saying that having an affair is the only reason he can be fired for cause?
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Otherwise, the threat of prolonged investgation should result in a negotiated buyout, if he wants to protect the girl and his own family.
Yes, that's why I don't think he gets the whole buyout.
It's all moot anyway as he could still return
Posted on 2/11/22 at 10:10 am to Leto II
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Could you post a link to it saying that having an affair is the only reason he can be fired for cause?
I'm not sure you understand what the term "for cause" means. Just not being as good at your job as certain people want doesn't qualify.
Here you go.
This post was edited on 2/11/22 at 10:13 am
Posted on 2/11/22 at 10:11 am to rebeloke
At this point I don't see how you've done anything other than neuter the man and set him back out there for one more season of shite. If you thought his recruiting this year was average just wait until next year when the 2023 class got to witness all of this. Plus look at the roster. Is them winning more than 6 games next year a good possibility?
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