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re: NIL has neutered the SEC in the 2 big money sports

Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:37 am to
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
3434 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:37 am to
That’s a fair argument.

If Day and Smart retired today I think OSU’s title odds stay the same and Georgia would slip.

The B10’s advantage is they have a large lower middle class and the SEC has a large upper middle class. The top
Programs have an easier path than the SEC as far as physicality.

That said Cignetti is the only coach im aware of that places the premium on availability. No contact on Monday and Friday. No practice ever longer than 1hr 45 min. Excessive film training a minimal contact. He’s got it figured out.
Posted by hookem2522
Member since Jan 2022
2617 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:55 am to
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Come up with something resembling a salary cap.


Bama would just cheat, like you did before NIL.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23746 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:13 am to
Money wins in a big money game.

Not a thing can be done about it. Only 3 or 4 schools in SEC can play the big money game. Only 1 SEC school can play the really big money game across many different sports.

Any substantial reform to level any playing field when it comes to NIL will have resistance from big schools. As it should.., they have an advantage. More importantly the court system is going to side with student athletes. Every single time.

The NIL boat sailed. Not coming back. Get used to it or find something else to watch.


Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
35142 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:20 am to
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NIL meant legalized paying of players. Goodbye SEC advantage.


I will always find fans claiming the "every team cheated but MINE" narrative amusing.
Posted by D3Fan
Member since Dec 2024
193 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:27 am to
I guess time will tell. There were two major developments hurting the SEC. One is NIL. There's no doubt SEC teams were more into paying players before NIL. The other was the 12 team playoff forcing teams to earn the championship. In a few years, we will see whether these two factors exposed the SEC.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:29 am to
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Money wins in a big money game.

Not a thing can be done about it. Only 3 or 4 schools in SEC can play the big money game. Only 1 SEC school can play the really big money game across many different sports.

Any substantial reform to level any playing field when it comes to NIL will have resistance from big schools. As it should.., they have an advantage. More importantly the court system is going to side with student athletes. Every single time.

The NIL boat sailed. Not coming back. Get used to it or find something else to watch.




Collegiate athletics is supposed to be about teaching students about working together. The moment it became a revenue generator and schools milked that for all its worth was the beginning of the end. It took a while, but the NCAA could not keep the flood gates closed forever.

The NIL system is a bad one. The idea was for players to not be prohibited from making money off of their own names, images, and likenesses... but that's not even REMOTELY what's happening.

This is what happens when policy change comes about from wide-sweeping legal challenges instead of incremental internal ones.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
35142 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:32 am to
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There's no doubt SEC teams were more into paying players before NIL.


This is simply your opinion.

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The other was the 12 team playoff forcing teams to earn the championship.


How were teams not earning championships before?

One could argue that teams who would never get a shot because they played incredibly weak schedules now have a path, removing the idea of teams earning it during the regular season.

Indiana deserved to win, but don't forget their OOC schedule was bad to the point of laughable. One thing programs learned from Indiana is that strong OOC opponents are a waste of time and more harmful than helpful.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
10185 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:34 am to
People who predicted this were mocked on this forum.

Every mouthbreather in the deep south thinks the Cane's guy has deeper pockets than 10,000 Michigan grads with degrees in law, medicine, business and finance.

This was coming. People just refused to believe it.
Posted by D3Fan
Member since Dec 2024
193 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:45 am to
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Every mouthbreather in the deep south thinks the Cane's guy has deeper pockets than 10,000 Michigan grads with degrees in law, medicine, business and finance.


Not only that, it's not like the Big Ten schools don't have some of their own ultra big money alums in addition to an army of the simply wealthy.

The SEC wanted to play the big money game with the Big Ten until they started seeing real money in action. Now it is laughable that the SEC wants NIL reform "for the good of the game."
Posted by D3Fan
Member since Dec 2024
193 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:59 am to
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How were teams not earning championships before?


The media was building up SEC teams. Remember, under the old system, UGA would be in the four team semifinals last year and they obviously did not get there under a system where you actually have to, you know, beat non-SEC teams in the playoffs.
Posted by theballguy
Un-PC for either side
Member since Oct 2011
36014 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:36 pm to
This is what everyone wanted esp. LSU fans. Bama (and Georgia) were dominating and we needed to introduce TP and NIL. This is what you all said. Now we're all getting it.

I do think LSU will do well with it as will a few other programs. But, Auburn is esp. fricked. Which I do find funny af.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25169 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:36 pm to
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unless Trump can get something done.


Somebody tell Trump that NIL is gonna release the Epstein Files.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
27123 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:57 pm to
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Big 12 schools show up and the conference immediately slides..

Coincidence?
This is correct. The Big XII schools brought their "soft" way of playing sports, and now a lot of SEC teams are kind of soft as a result.
Posted by QBUMizzou
North of the Mason Dixon line
Member since Nov 2013
805 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:59 pm to
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NIL has neutered the SEC in the 2 big money sports


Arkansas hasn’t been neutered as they’ve never had balls.
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
6082 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:21 pm to
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LSU

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competitive

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2 big money sports
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
1353 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:46 pm to
someone should ask him what he's doing right
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Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
24642 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:53 pm to
It really doesn’t matter who you have as coach, though they may win you some games, talent wins championships consistently.

I feel Alabama has one of the best coaches in basketball, but will fail to compete (consistently) without more $$.

The same may go for DeBoar (and even Lane to a certain extent). We know he is an excellent coach and has won everywhere he has been. But NIL has made it consistently harder to compete with talent going to the top $$$.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
28002 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:55 pm to
Holy frick it is sad that you have upvotes.... Who won last year is Basketball? Didn't Auburn join us in the Final Four 4. Maybe it has made your school terrible..but do not put that on all of us. You suck, not everyone in the SEC.
This post was edited on 3/30/26 at 2:04 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
22562 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 2:03 pm to
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The SEC wanted to play the big money game with the Big Ten until they started seeing real money in action


No, the SEC did not want this. It was the Big 10 pushing for super conferences and an expanded playoff. The Big 10, Pac 12, and ACC allied themselves against the SEC. It worked out well for the Big 10. Not so much for the ACC and Pac 12.

And it was the courts who are responsible for NIL. And they and the NCAA over reaction to Covid gave us the unlimited transfer portal.

No, the SEC was perfectly fine with how things were before.

It was the Big 10 who realized they couldn’t consistently beat the SEC on the field. So they decided to change the field.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25208 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 2:27 pm to
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And Ill. was overseeded,


Kenpom has Ill as the #4 overall team in the country, so they were actually underseeded

Until Duke blew it, the final four would have been the top 4 Kenpom teams
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