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re: NIL Donor Fatigue
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:29 am to VADawg
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:29 am to VADawg
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We watch because it is our school, not because of who is playing.
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This is the part the cleat chasers will never understand.
You don’t just want to see them play. You want to see them win. And NIL or not, SEC fans would rather have Johnny Fivestar from California who can’t spell Baton Rouge or Tuscaloosa over local boy Ricky Threestar with a 4.0 GPA who wants to be a mechanical engineer.
Tell me I’m wrong.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:29 am to scrooster
I said it before that the athletes can kiss getting facilities upgrades every 2-3 years good bye with NIL. There is a finite amount that people are willing to pay for college football and season tickets have the priority for everyone.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:30 am to Globetrotter747
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You don’t just want to see them play. You want to see them win. And NIL or not, SEC fans would rather have Johnny Fivestar from California who can’t spell Baton Rouge or Tuscaloosa over local boy Ricky Threestar with a 4.0 GPA who wants to be a mechanical engineer. Tell me I’m wrong.
One of those is one and done the other is in it for 3-4 years. I’ll let you figure out who is who and then answer your own question.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:43 am to Dairy Sanders
It'll get to the point where "development" and players working hard to improve will be a thing of the past. High school 5*'s are demanding and getting big NIL $$. Are their parents & agents willing to let them stay at a program long enough for them to hone their skills, work within a team structure and become a draftable product?
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:49 am to scrooster
The Rant is becoming the OT Lounge. Do you poor people ever stop crying?!?
Those of you who can't handle free market capitalism need to move to North Korea, or at the very least, shut up. You are making the non-poor people uncomfortable.
Those of you who can't handle free market capitalism need to move to North Korea, or at the very least, shut up. You are making the non-poor people uncomfortable.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 12:08 pm to RT1941
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It'll get to the point where "development" and players working hard to improve will be a thing of the past. High school 5*'s are demanding and getting big NIL $$. Are their parents & agents willing to let them stay at a program long enough for them to hone their skills, work within a team structure and become a draftable product?
Yup. AAU killed basketball development and NIL will kill football development.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 12:18 pm to Dairy Sanders
If college sports invariably become a nearly identical but just a poor man’s version of their professional counterparts, interest will definitely wane.
How much minor league baseball or NBA G League are you watching these days?
How much minor league baseball or NBA G League are you watching these days?
Posted on 3/11/24 at 12:48 pm to kywildcatfanone
NIL needs a salary cap.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 1:13 pm to dchog
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NIL needs a salary cap.
I'm guessing you're joking.
If not, realize that if the supreme court won't allow a rule that prevents players from signing a deal that pays them to attend a certain school, they certainly won't cap their earnings potential.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 1:48 pm to DawginSC
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certainly won't cap their
So why hasn't the NFL salary cap been ruled unconstitutional? It limits (if you want to call it that) player salaries.
The minimum wage limits salaries. Unconstitutional? What about job postings that require a certain degree? Not very equitable and fair to those without a degree?
I just don't get why now, all of a sudden, ANY restrictions on college athletes is mysteriously unenforceable. It's like they're specifically trying to destroy an institution that has been around for nearly 150 years... because suddenly it has magically become "unfair"...but wasn't unfair in the 60s, 70s and 80s?
Posted on 3/11/24 at 1:51 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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The Rant is becoming the OT Lounge. Do you poor people ever stop crying?!? Those of you who can't handle free market capitalism need to move to North Korea, or at the very least, shut up. You are making the non-poor people uncomfortable.
Ignorant statement. You know very little about free market capitalism.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 1:53 pm to Chad4Bama
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So why hasn't the NFL salary cap been ruled unconstitutional? It limits (if you want to call it that) player salaries.
Good question, but nfl salaries are not NIL, so maybe that is an important distinction.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 2:02 pm to Dallaswho
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If someone wants to go out and just buy a guy with no commitment, that’s on them.
Buy a commitment from a commitment? Since when did commitments mean anything with most commitments? What has always mattered with commitments is signing day and legal, contractual, obligations.
None of that means anything anymore because there are no recourses or consequences for failing to meet one's commitments.
Of course, this was always an issue to some degree as there was always pay for play happening at some schools.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 2:10 pm to Chad4Bama
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So why hasn't the NFL salary cap been ruled unconstitutional?
Pretty simple explanation.
Teams in the NFL are part of the NFL. Part of joining is agreeing to the rules of the NFL.
Advertisers are NOT part of the NFL. This is why players can get paid to do Nike commercials and it not impact NFL salary caps.
All of NIL is officially advertising revenue... an endorsement contract between a player and a company who wants to use their name, image and likeness. You can't cap (or even regulate) what your players can get from advertising deals because of the fact they play for a team in your league. The NFL doesn't even try to do that. The NCAA tried to put in some common sense regulations (no pay-for-play) and got shot down.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 2:15 pm to Chad4Bama
quote:NFL salaries and an NFL players endorsement contracts are two completely different things. The NFL has zero jurisdiction over a player's endorsement contracts other than the NFL players are not allowed to endorse alcoholic beverages.
So why hasn't the NFL salary cap been ruled unconstitutional? It limits (if you want to call it that) player salaries.
The minimum wage limits salaries. Unconstitutional? What about job postings that require a certain degree? Not very equitable and fair to those without a degree?
I just don't get why now, all of a sudden, ANY restrictions on college athletes is mysteriously unenforceable. It's like they're specifically trying to destroy an institution that has been around for nearly 150 years... because suddenly it has magically become "unfair"...but wasn't unfair in the 60s, 70s and 80s?
Mahomes serves as the corporate pitchman for numerous companies, State Farm/Adidas/Head & Shoulders, etc.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 2:18 pm to scrooster
NIL is great, but pay-to-play is bad. Good intentions have turned into a money grab by all.
P2 is coming.
P2 is coming.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 2:20 pm to GetmorewithLes
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It cannot sustain itself at this pace, catering-to adolescents (and their parents) with agents dictating terms to staffs, fans and programs without one iota loyalty or espeit de corp given in return.
I said this when the whole NIL thing emerged and frankly I am surprised it has gotten this large. These money people are used to getting something for what they give. Giving an entitled kid a bunch of money for the short term is not very satisfying
This might be true for LSU because their history proved it to be just that. Look at this past transition LSU did and how much it has cost LSU to get it done with all the coaches changes and buyouts then there is NIL for top recruits. This has never happened before at LSU.
This post was edited on 3/11/24 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 3/11/24 at 2:55 pm to scrooster
LOL at anywho that donates to these things. It’s college sports. It will all come crashing down.
I’ll put my money in my kids 529 accounts instead.
I’ll put my money in my kids 529 accounts instead.
This post was edited on 3/11/24 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 3/11/24 at 3:00 pm to Chad4Bama
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I just don't get why now, all of a sudden, ANY restrictions on college athletes is mysteriously unenforceable. It's like they're specifically trying to destroy an institution that has been around for nearly 150 years... because suddenly it has magically become "unfair"...but wasn't unfair in the 60s, 70s and 80s?
Sports journalism up until the early 2000's was seen as barely a part of journalism proper at all. "Real" reporters wouldn't be caught dead reporting on sports - that was something ex-jocks got paid to do after they retired. Combine that with the fact that in many cases people were unable to watch games live because they weren't televised, and it is unsurprising that sports-related media stories of that time leaned heavily towards simply telling you what happened (in other words, reporting the damn news). Magazines like Sports Illustrated might go a little deeper with their stories, but even that was typically just giving behind-the-scenes information or some limited analysis and projection. People who wrote about sports did so because they loved sports. They were fans first and journalists only because they had gotten lucky enough to find a job where they could get paid to write about what they loved.
During the 00's you started to see more sports reporters who considered themselves journalists first and sports fans second, if at all. These were people who had gone to college to get their journalism degrees, and while there they had been taught that a reporter's job was not simply to report the news, but rather to be a force for social change and justice and to bring inequality to light. So when, as young reporters fresh out of college, they were assigned to the sports desk as their first job in media, they started looking for issues that they could write about, because that's what reporters do. Who cares about who won or lost a sportsball game? That's boring and isn't winning anyone a Pulitzer. What the people really need to hear about is that that poor young football player, who incidentally is possibly the first member of his family to ever attend college and is getting to do it for free, is being exploited by the evil suits at the university to make money off of his hard work while he gets nothing in return, other than, you know, a chance at a college degree. But still! Something Needs To Be Done, dammit!
Posted on 3/11/24 at 3:52 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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So when, as young reporters fresh out of college, they were assigned to the sports desk as their first job in media, they started looking for issues that they could write about
Your post is dead on. Case in point, on the al.commie website right now is the confirmed liberal jackass Joey Goodman bitching about DEI legislation like the pathetic pissant he is. They amazingly made room for it among the 24 anti-Katie Britt articles they could find to repost.
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