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NFL.com: Manziel doesn't look like elite NFL quarterback prospect

Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:32 pm
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:32 pm
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Conclusion

The continued evaluation of Johnny Football will make for a fascinating story, because he will test the standards of quarterback play at the NFL level. He is an unconventional playmaker with outstanding athleticism and running skills who is at his best when improvising and playing "sandlot" football -- something that will be hard to do in the NFL. Additionally, he lacks the requisite physical dimensions and pocket passing skills that most evaluators covet in franchise quarterbacks. While comparisons to Russell Wilson will certainly be made, based on the similarly short Wilson's success with the Seattle Seahawks, I would contend that Wilson was a more polished and accomplished passer as a collegian. He also played in a pro-style offense at N.C. State and Wisconsin, which prepared him for the rigors of life in the NFL.

I believe Doug Flutie would be a more apt comparison when it comes to Manziel. Flutie was an effective improvisational playmaker as a pro who could also play the game from the pocket. After spending years refining his craft in the Canadian Football League, Flutie landed in the NFL and enjoyed a successful stint as a starting quarterback. Manziel will certainly get his chance, but I don't believe he is a top quarterback prospect at this time.

Solid article.
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 1:43 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45391 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:33 pm to
Don't need to read the article to know that.
Posted by BamaChemE
Midland, TX
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:34 pm to
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NFL.com: Johnny Manziel doesn't look like elite NFL quarterback prospect


Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43586 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:34 pm to
That is all fair. I don't think it is fair to compare JFF to Wilson and say Wilson was more polished and such because JFF was just a freshman this past year and has a lot of time to "polish" before the NFL would be there.
Posted by BuccWildBammer
AL
Member since Nov 2011
23340 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:34 pm to
If he leaves this yr he's a 4th - 5th rd pick, waits a yr 3rd rd at highest

Tebow messed it up for everyone who has a run mentality
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Member since Feb 2013
5280 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:35 pm to
Water is wet
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150400 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:36 pm to
so this article says something we all know already...awesome
Posted by BuccWildBammer
AL
Member since Nov 2011
23340 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:36 pm to
SOS Wilson had a lot more time and experience running a pro set offense at NC St
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
11212 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:37 pm to
I sure hope this is right. 4 years in an A&M uniform? Yes please.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92848 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:37 pm to
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Tebow messed it up for everyone who has a run mentality
Plus the fact that he has a slow release and terrible arm motions...

His lack of accuracy was also exposed when he played against the big boys (which is weird considering he really never seemed to have a problem with it in college).
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
27604 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:37 pm to
Bucky Brooks better be careful opening his mail. I'd hate for him to spill the jar.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
11212 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:37 pm to
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Tebow messed it up for everyone who has a run mentality


Who has a run mentality? WTF does that even mean?
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22596 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:38 pm to
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, I would contend that Wilson was a more polished and accomplished passer as a collegian


well, no sh*t.. they're comparing a multi-year starting senior QB to a freshman in his first season. It's almost a gurantee that JF will look more seasoned in another two or three years.

Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7432 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:39 pm to
Wait, are y'all happy about this?
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61494 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:39 pm to
who cares what a random scout has to say?

Jerry Jones is going to draft Johnny.

Romo getting that big deal means dick b/c Jerry knows he can ride the momentum of jersey sales Tebow style with JFF.

If Johnny ends up unseating Romo, Jerry wins. If he doesn't? Jerry makes money anyway.

and before you scoff at this, please remember, Jerry is the guy who took Quincy Carter in the 2nd round.
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 1:40 pm
Posted by HandGrenade
Member since Oct 2010
11234 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:39 pm to
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Who has a run mentality? WTF does that even mean?


Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22596 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:40 pm to
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If he leaves this yr he's a 4th - 5th rd pick, waits a yr 3rd rd at highest


no way.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:42 pm to
Once again, comparing Johnny Manziel (a redshirt sophomore) to Russell Wilson at Wisconsin (a redshirt SENIOR).
Posted by BuccWildBammer
AL
Member since Nov 2011
23340 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:42 pm to
Meyer's offense was almost primarily based on Tebow's improv working through the read option, the threat of the run was always there

He had the run mentality, so does Manziel, the offense is a more spread passing attack than read option, but I'm sure if you broke it down he ran on a large % of plays whether they were called runs or not
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:43 pm to
He's not.
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