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re: New 2021 US News Academic Rankings

Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:26 pm to
Where's the mUh AkAdEmIkz Mizzou baws at?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:27 pm to
Baylor notoriously had paid students to retake the SAT and ACT after they were already enrolled to cook the books.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:27 pm to
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Actually what I find the most amazing is that LSU can't finish up around UGA, UF, A&M considering they are the only major state school in Louisiana....
A large portion of the ranking has to due with funding available to the school, and because of how the state's budget is set up, we are always having to cut education to make up for budget shortfalls. So the drop makes since considering oil prices bottomed out and Louisiana's budget is reliant upon on high oil prices.
Posted by Captain Crown
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:28 pm to
We all know LSU doesn't come to play school. Enjoy those academic championships
Posted by Reservoir dawg
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:30 pm to
Lots of work put in for those rankings, I'm sure.
Posted by YF12
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:32 pm to
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100-200 probably not much of a difference


All the flagship state schools in the country are essentially the same. Using the same materials from the same people.

These rankings never made much sense.

The only ranking should be connections rankings
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
1718 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:32 pm to
Still frustrating that we are stuck in the high 60s all these years later. We were ranked in the Top 50 when I was in school in the 90s. Then came John Sharp and ballooning enrollment and education for the masses.
Posted by lsufball19
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:33 pm to
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I don't know what methodology U.S. News uses, but sometimes these lists incorporate non-academic factors like student diversity, tuition value, campus safety, and other subjective metrics that can change.

Yeah, the metrics used are generally stupid. On the whole, the education you receive at a flagship state university isn't going to differ all that much from school to school unless you're talking about some specific program that one school excels at that another doesn't. But for your "run of the mill" majors, you're learning the same material everywhere you go. I always find it hilarious at the chest beating that occurs with these things. For instance, take a poly sci major at UGA and a poly sci major at Ole Miss... no one is going to care what each school is "ranked" if both people are applying for the same job in say Raleigh, NC.
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 1:35 pm
Posted by forestwhitackersgood
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:35 pm to
Meh... Most employers couldn't care less where you get your degree from(UNLESS you're talking about a Duke, Vanderbilt, Harvard, Stanford type institution)... I've been told directly from hiring managers that simply having a degree doesn't really mean shite... It's great at getting your foot in the door for an interview but 95% of the time a degree from Ole Miss has the same weight as a a degree from Florida or Georgia... Plus I've known people with college degrees that were legit dumbasses... Conversely I've known non-degreed people who were highly intelligent, more than capable of filling certain college degree "required" billets that have kicked arse in those roles...
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 2:08 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:36 pm to
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We were ranked in the Top 50 when I was in school in the 90s


As high as 47 when I was there.
Posted by Realistic Ag
Member since Jun 2014
1896 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:37 pm to
I like Money's Rankings because they are favorable to us.

8. Vandy
11. TAMU
16. Florida
93. UGA
240. Mizzou
272. LSU
317. South Carolina
333. Tennessee
347. Auburn
436. Arky
447. Ole Miss
475. Kentucky
485. Miss St
589. Bama
Posted by cdur86
Member since Jan 2014
960 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:45 pm to
Well 20% of the ranking comes from "Expert Opinion". I can't take that seriously especially when there can be so much bias involved. I guess University of Alabama will always be low since so many "educators" have such a low opinion of the state. And before you say it, yes AU is in Alabama but can take advantage of not having the state name in the school and there are many people that don't know they are located in Alabama
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:46 pm to
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589. Bama

Holy shite!

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Money weighed more than 20,000 data points, including tuition fees, family borrowing, and career earnings.

Oh.
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:49 pm to
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#14 Vanderbilt
#30 Florida
#47 Georgia
#66 Texas A&M
#97 Auburn
I can live with this
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:52 pm to
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It has sank in these rankings the last several years.
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has sank
checks out
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:54 pm to
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New 2021 US News Academic Rankings
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New 2021 US News Academic Rankings


it's not an academic rating
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:54 pm to
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education for the masses
...isn't that the point of a state university?
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 1:55 pm
Posted by bigDgator
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:54 pm to
Yes A&M ranked above Harvard, great list.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:55 pm to
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I guess University of Alabama will always be low since so many "educators" have such a low opinion of the state. And before you say it, yes AU is in Alabama but can take advantage of not having the state name in the school and there are many people that don't know they are located in Alabama
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 1:55 pm to
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he education you receive at a flagship state university isn't going to differ all that much from school to school unless you're talking about some specific program that one school excels at that another doesn't
big facts
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