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re: NCAA official response to CA: State’s 58 member schools would be ineligible to compete
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:48 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:48 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Ok. Does this mean we are going to have multiple organizations such as those that allow pay for endorsement and those that don't competing for television coverage. And broken conferences where some schools stick with the NCAA and others don't and drop out of that league. For instance there are bills in various states across the county. The NBA already has a minor league, will the NFL step up in the defense of CFB and establish one. And will a state actor in Ca sue and compel say USC to allow their athletes to get endorsement contracts.
This sounds like Ca. making the claim that all other schools are cheating and our schools are not so we're gonna legalize pay and since we have the money we'll be dominant. One big booster like the Okie St booster who recently died could do some serious damage hiring all the 5 stars in Texas.
This sounds like Ca. making the claim that all other schools are cheating and our schools are not so we're gonna legalize pay and since we have the money we'll be dominant. One big booster like the Okie St booster who recently died could do some serious damage hiring all the 5 stars in Texas.
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:50 pm to GatorOnAnIsland
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It will be like NCAA baseball. Half of your recruited class will take the NFL $$CASH$$ and go to the minors. This will free up my Saturdays.
You contradict yourself here.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:51 pm to TeddyWestside
quote:If that happens, and if the schools win, our democracy will have officially fallen
They're going to bring a law suit if/when the NCAA follows through on this threat.
The Govt having complete and total power of how organizations run themselves
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:58 pm to 00 Tech Grad
There is a reason California didn't have the guts to make the law go into affect immediately or within the next year. They are bluffing and trying to strong arm the rest of the nation similar to what they do with their state travel bans that don't work. They provided themselves several years to reverse the legislation if it appears that the NCAA and other states will not cater to them. Just one year of not being able to compete in the NCAA would be the equivalent of the death penalty for USC, UCLA, Cal, and Stanford and set their programs back for a decade or more. Schools like Oregon, Washington, Utah, Arizona, and Arizona State would likely leave the Pac 12 and join the Big 12. Recruiting will suffer even in the years leading up to the potential NCAA split with most recruits being unwilling to risk getting stuck at a non NCAA school.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:58 pm to meansonny
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You change the professionalism to permit these kids to make their money.
Good luck convincing the NFL and NFLPA and all of their political power that they have to change their model, not the NCAA
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:12 pm to RB10
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Football, as it is now, is different. There isn’t an 18 year old on the planet who can go straight into the NFL so you’re going to see the best players going into the “developmental” league every draft, and they will probably stay for 1-2 years before moving on. Some longer, obviously.
But college football's appeal is more than just seeing the best players.
No one will ever care about a minor league team like the care about a college team.
Plus tthe sheer # of teams that the NFL gets now.
130 minor league teams ins't possible, but the NFL takes players from every university more or less. They would be sinking money into paying these players, and the returns would diminish. People are connected to the universities not he players. Its why people go year after year.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:16 pm to Todd O'Connor
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Its why people go year after year.
It's why attendance is shitty for losing programs. Nobody wants to drop $1000 to bring their family to a game to watch a crappy team (hotel, travel, food for the family, tickets, etc...).
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:19 pm to Todd O'Connor
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130 minor league teams ins't possible, but the NFL takes players from every university more or less. They would be sinking money into paying these players, and the returns would diminish. People are connected to the universities not he players. Its why people go year after year.
No if this happens they will create 32 teams and take the best 300-400 players every year from high school. Maybe even more.
IF this happened it would absolutely hurt college football.
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It's why attendance is shitty for losing programs. Nobody wants to drop $1000 to bring their family to a game to watch a crappy team (hotel, travel, food for the family, tickets, etc...).
Exactly. How many “attendance is dropping” topics have we seen? Take away the best players in college every year and that number would continue to drop.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:22 pm to RD Dawg
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All minor league teams that are associated with a Major League team have the players salaries picked by the parent club...on every level.
That doesn't change the fact that a vast majority of them are barely being paid. Not all MiLB teams run profitable, but the ones that do wouldn't be able to do so if they were paying even a reasonable salary... They get by on "aww shucks family fun and goofy shenanigans" in generally smaller markets... It works for them...
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:23 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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The only option you have is to start your own organization and try to compete.
I don't see a big tv contract for just California schools. They will be screwed if other states don't pass the same law and the NCAA is able to stay together...will be the first time I have ever rooted for the NCAA
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:24 pm to RB10
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No if this happens they will create 32 teams and take the best 300-400 players every year from high school. Maybe even more.
So they would miss out on a TON of good players. Drew Brees, Ben Rothlisburger, Pat Mahomes wouldn't have made it to the nFL through this system.
And it defeats the whole point of developmental leagues: developing players. Baseball teams don't have farm systems for profit, they do it because they need ot develop players. Same with College and the NFL except the NFL doesnt have to pick up the bill for an almost infinite number of players to get developed.
there would have to be NO football for NFL B to turn a profit. even then it might still might not.
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Exactly. How many “attendance is dropping” topics have we seen? Take away the best players in college every year and that number would continue to drop.
except talent is relative.
Take away the best 100 recruits every year, and the 101st recruit in college is now a star. Even when high school students went to the NBA college basketball was a draw.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:26 pm to RB10
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At the end of the day I think having schools split from the NCAA is bad for football and basketball at every level from high school up and I hope it doesn’t happen. Hopefully they just let the athletes make money for their likeness, as long as it’s not pay for play.
Yeah... I don't disagree with this... Likeness rights for things like bringing back the NCAA video game could be collectively bargained (either at the NCAA parent level or Conference/Team level I suppose) with a minimal payout to each athlete, and then individual likeness rights could be specifically contracted... I just think that the cash should 1) be transparently captured by school for the athletes and the individuals paying the tab and 2) it should not be released to the athlete until they either finish school or leave on their own terms. Feels like an easier means of at least keeping the "amateur" status somewhat in tact rather than just shitting on it altogether.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:33 pm to fibonaccisquared
I agree 100%. I also think the income should be capped on a yearly basis. Having Player A, who’s a sophomore superstar, make $100K or more while player B, who’s a senior starter but not a star, make $5K is a problem.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:36 pm to fibonaccisquared
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That doesn't change the fact that a vast majority of them are barely being paid
Never said they weren't
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Not all MiLB teams run profitable, but the ones that do wouldn't be able to do so if they were paying even a reasonable salary
They do spend alot on bonuses but beyond that it ain't easy being a minor leaguer.
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