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re: NCAA official response to CA: State’s 58 member schools would be ineligible to compete
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:11 am to 00 Tech Grad
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:11 am to 00 Tech Grad
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It’s their organization and within their right to declare teams ineligible who break organization rules.
Until the monopoly issue is brought up. Uh oh!!!!
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:11 am to TeddyWestside
quote:Wrong. They wouldn’t have anything to sue over. Case would be immediately dismissed
That's what California wants. They're going to bring a law suit if/when the NCAA follows through on this threat.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:11 am to 00 Tech Grad
quote:Bingo!
The NCAA will simply say it’s not their fault the NFL hasn’t amended their football rules to reflect those of MLB and the NBA, allowing football players to be drafted out of high school.
If the lawsuit is about allowing players to be paid, the correct defendant is the NFL.
It's just another lawyers' payday.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 11:13 am
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:12 am to 00 Tech Grad
You’re absolutely right but I seriously doubt the ncaa will walk away from all the revenue the california schools put in their pockets. This is still america and money is the god.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:13 am to 00 Tech Grad
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disagree. What are they going to sue a private organization for? Enforcing its own rules? You sign with the NCAA, you’re legally bound to obey their rules. Contract law. That’s a non-starter.
Except the NCAA is not needed. They basically shoe horned their way into it because they saw a way to scam money.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:14 am to TeddyWestside
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That's what California wants. They're going to bring a law suit if/when the NCAA follows through on this threat.
California would be foolish do do this, as the ncaa is a voluntary organization, so members are free to leave at anytime.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:15 am to bamagreycoat
TV's the revenue source, and they ain't leaving the NCAA.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:15 am to J2thaROC
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Except the NCAA is not needed. They basically shoe horned their way into it because they saw a way to scam money.
So they forced the NFL to refuse to draft HS players?
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:17 am to jlovel7
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The NCAA doesn't dissuade competition
They actively dissuade free market competition amongst college players that has resulted in multiple black markets forming.
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If they were a monopoly there wouldn't be an AAFL, AFL, NFL.
That’s not a valid comparison given that those leagues teams directly pay their players as employees where the NCAA organizes athletic participation and rules for member institutions under the condition that all institutions prohibit their athletes from earning money. While they have football in common, the league structures and roles of the players are completely different.
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Are they out there actively quashing other amateur leagues sprouting up?
They essentially have a monopoly on competition within four year institutions across three divisions. The NJCAA and NAIA exist but only because those schools don’t meet NCAA requirements for membership.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:17 am to J2thaROC
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Except the NCAA is not needed
man, please.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:18 am to J2thaROC
The NCAA should just split TV revenues with each student athlete that plays on television. Kind of like a profit sharing deal. That way athletes are "paid" for their likeness and everyone is happy. So if Women's equestrian is on TV, and ESPN sells adds to that broadcast, whatever profit they make after paying all expenses, gets split between all college equestrian athletes. This would keep the playing field level for all schools plus satisfies the right to sell your likeness people. I mean the NCAA is a non profit organization.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 11:20 am
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:18 am to 00 Tech Grad
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So they forced the NFL to refuse to draft HS players?
No, the NFL and NFLPA have made that possible but given who the owners of those franchises are and their political capital it’s a complete untouchable issue. So, the NCAA gets targeted for restricting commerce
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:19 am to bamagreycoat
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I seriously doubt the ncaa will walk away from all the revenue the california schools put in their pockets. This is still america and money is the god.
Sure they will, if their options are to walk away from those states’ money or give up on all the money nationally. That’s what they are facing. They’ll bet on those states being unable to succeed in creating a competing organization that will challenge them, and they’ll be right.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 11:22 am
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:20 am to AirbusDawg
That’s a way more costly and complex solution to a proposal that can be boiled down to something much more simple: just let college students participate in a free market with third parties like all of their classmates. Schools and the NCAA don’t hve to pay anyone anything, just let the young adults make lawful decisions about their economic status and futures
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:22 am to 00 Tech Grad
You lost me with the part about california forcing the ncaa to give up all the money nationally. I don’t understand how they can do that. Please elaborate.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:22 am to tylerdurden24
quote:But they DO exist which proves that there's an option available.....that should kill the monopoly strategy.
The NJCAA and NAIA exist but only because those schools don’t meet NCAA requirements for membership.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:24 am to 00 Tech Grad
Oh you’re banking on California creating their own competing system I got it. I’m sorry I didn’t see your edit before I asked.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:25 am to jlovel7
Presumably, the suit really should be brought up against the NFL rather than the NCAA... the NCAA doesn't collectively bargain that you have to be a certain number of years removed from High School to enter the league...
The NCAA is a prettier target, but it's the wrong one IMO... they aren't technically the organization forcing kids to use them as a proving ground for the NFL.
ETA: I now see 00 Tech Grad has covered this.
The NCAA is a prettier target, but it's the wrong one IMO... they aren't technically the organization forcing kids to use them as a proving ground for the NFL.
ETA: I now see 00 Tech Grad has covered this.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 11:28 am
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:25 am to 00 Tech Grad
this is the death of college atheletics. NCAA will still operate but a competing league will be formed where athletes are paid. Schools will then choose which league they want to be apart of.
Of course all of the top athletes will then go to the ones offering money and boom. Bye bye NCAA and amateurism
I fricking hate California
Of course all of the top athletes will then go to the ones offering money and boom. Bye bye NCAA and amateurism
I fricking hate California
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:25 am to tylerdurden24
I think the struggle for most fans of college athelitics is they want to maintain some sense of an even playing field. I can honestly say that these students should have the right to make money off their likeness, but I also want college sports to at least seem like it is fair for all teams involved. I think this law just is meant for student athletes to be compensated for their likeness, it doesn't mean it has to be free agency.
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