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NCAA official response to CA: State’s 58 member schools would be ineligible to compete

Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:56 am
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:56 am
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California Senate Bill 206 would upend that balance. If the bill becomes law and California’s 58 NCAA schools are compelled to allow an unrestricted name, image and likeness scheme, it would erase the critical distinction between college and professional athletics and, because it gives those schools an unfair recruiting advantage, would result in them eventually being unable to compete in NCAA competitions. These outcomes are untenable and would negatively impact more than 24,000 California student-athletes across three divisions.


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Posted by uway
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:57 am to
NCAA flexing
Posted by tylerdurden24
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:58 am to
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would result in them eventually being unable to compete in NCAA competitions


Key word. NCAA trying to seem like they’re taking a strong stance when really they’re going to get bullied into changing and they know it
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:58 am to
a more up to date response

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NCAA statement on Gov. Newsom signing SB 206
September 30, 2019 10:44am
As a membership organization, the NCAA agrees changes are needed to continue to support student-athletes, but improvement needs to happen on a national level through the NCAA’s rules-making process. Unfortunately, this new law already is creating confusion for current and future student-athletes, coaches, administrators and campuses, and not just in California.

We will consider next steps in California while our members move forward with ongoing efforts to make adjustments to NCAA name, image and likeness rules that are both realistic in modern society and tied to higher education.

As more states consider their own specific legislation related to this topic, it is clear that a patchwork of different laws from different states will make unattainable the goal of providing a fair and level playing field for 1,100 campuses and nearly half a million student-athletes nationwide.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:59 am to
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NCAA flexing


It’s their organization and within their right to declare teams ineligible who break organization rules.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:00 am to
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Key word.


2023=eventually
Posted by TeddyWestside
Georgia
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:00 am to
That's what California wants. They're going to bring a law suit if/when the NCAA follows through on this threat.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:01 am to
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As more states consider their own specific legislation related to this topic, it is clear that a patchwork of different laws from different states will make unattainable the goal of providing a fair and level playing field for 1,100 campuses and nearly half a million student-athletes nationwide.


Because the NCAA and the conferences dont already navigate 50 different sets of commerce laws.

Shorter the NCAA: Guys, just stop for a minute so we can spend the next 20 years catching up in hopes that you’ll all have cooled on the idea by then
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:03 am to
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That's what California wants. They're going to bring a law suit if/when the NCAA follows through on this threat.


I disagree. What are they going to sue a private organization for? Enforcing its own rules? You sign with the NCAA, you’re legally bound to obey their rules. Contract law. That’s a non-starter.

The only option you have is to start your own organization and try to compete.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 11:04 am
Posted by tylerdurden24
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:03 am to
It could. But more likely it means that when the law is enacted the NCAA will go through the typical process of investigating claims that athletes are using the law to their advantage which will take another year or two and then bring sanctions. It’s the NCAA, it’s going to drag out especially as the interests of other major universities around the country change
Posted by tylerdurden24
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:04 am to
It’s just more fodder for antitrust suits that have been in the works for a while
Posted by coachcrisp
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:04 am to
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Key word. NCAA trying to seem like they’re taking a strong stance when really they’re going to get bullied into changing and they know it

The NCAA must make this stand, and they know it. They will be sued (and they know this,too), and it will end up in the SCOTUS. Imo, it will be dismissed there.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:05 am to
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hat's what California wants. They're going to bring a law suit if/when the NCAA follows through on this threat.




A suit for what? The NCAA isn't enforcing any laws that restrict the student athlete from making money. They simply rule them ineligible to compete in their organization and take advantage of their platform. What right does the government have to force an organization to allow or sponsor unfair competition against its will? The NCAA has decided they want to be an organization that supports and maintains amateur athletics. They don't want to be the NFL. If players want to be professional athletes, they need to join a professional league.
Posted by TeddyWestside
Georgia
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:05 am to
I believe I have read that they're going to sue on anti-trust grounds. Whether or not that will be successful, I do not know.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:06 am to
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NCAA trying to seem like they’re taking a strong stance when really they’re going to get bullied into changing and they know it


I took it as a subtle way of the NCAA giving CA an out without them having to bring Title IX into things.

Those same politicians pushing this would be punished especially harshly for threatening Title IX in a state like CA.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:07 am to
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It’s just more fodder for antitrust suits that have been in the works for a while


I don't understand this. The NCAA doesn't dissuade competition, there's just no demand for it. If they were a monopoly there wouldn't be an AAFL, AFL, NFL. Are they out there actively quashing other amateur leagues sprouting up?
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:08 am to
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I believe I have read that they're going to sue on anti-trust grounds. Whether or not that will be successful, I do not know.


The NCAA will simply say it’s not their fault the NFL hasn’t amended their football rules to reflect those of MLB and the NBA, allowing football players to be drafted out of high school.

If the lawsuit is about allowing players to be paid, the correct defendant is the NFL.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 11:10 am
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:09 am to
NCAA will lose this case if it goes to court.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:10 am to
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It’s their organization and within their right to declare teams ineligible who break organization rules.


The problem is it's a hollow threat and the NCAA knows it. New York and Florida are about the pass similar laws. What then? The NCAA is going to cave, that's what.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:10 am to
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NCAA will lose this case if it goes to court.


No, they won’t. The NFL is the only possible liable defendant.
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