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re: National Media Ganging Up On Ole Miss
Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:02 am to GrantGreen
Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:02 am to GrantGreen
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booster paying 800 dollars to tunsils stepdad.
Well, it appears the $300 of that $800 was paid per the text messages that were published and this was "not per their agreement". Now, what exactly was "their agreement" for the 36 months that LT was in Mississippi? By my calculations that leaves $500 for 36 months and I'm not buying that one. The other shoe is going to drop shortly.
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:36 am to GnashRebel
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But if I am expected to believe that other coaching staffs outside of Nashville think the Rebears have an unfair advantage and believe they don't have boosters doing as much or more, than I have a problem with that.
The difference is the coaches of those other schools are not running around insisting that they are clean and claiming that you should believe them because they are such better Christians than you.
Yeah, everybody cheats. UMiss got caught. No one has the moral high ground, but the Rebels are going to pay the price. Just accept it.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:39 am to AshLSU
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You cheat, you get caught, fricking man up and take your punishment
You don't get it.
Ole Miss doesn't want to play by the rules anymore, because within the rules college football is nothing but a caste system which means they can never have the level of success they dream of.
Which is why in the long run Ole Miss is going to take a beating- the bluebloods who run the sport refuse to cede power to upstarts who feel they deserve more success just because increased tv exposure and increased gameday costs the last few decades has increased fan expectations.
If Ole Miss is allowed to get away with all of this the end result will be the same as if they never tried. If it is proven that cheating is ok by a lack of punishment for Ole Miss then everyone cheats and the playing field evens out as the Bama's of the world will simply cheat better than they can. Things will go back to normal over time except everyone is paying more money to players (a result no one but the players want).
Ole Miss was faced with the ultimate prisoner's dilemma and they make the wrong choice, the self serving choice. And they will pay the price for it no matter how much any of us might appreciate their courage for bucking the status quo.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:43 am to ColoradoElkHerd
What are they saying?
Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:47 am to Barneyrb
So on June 25, 2015 Tunsil sent the coach a text at 10:25PM and asked "can u meet me at (can't make it out) right now". That's odd. To me that's more curious than the obvious issue of payment and the clear pattern of it.
What was so pressing that he needed to include the "right now"? Why that time of night? Interesting. This whole thing is worth entertainment if nothing else.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 11:06 am to Cdawg
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Miami case is where the the NCAA admitted wrongdoing. They paid an outside lawyer for info. Penn State had a case b/c it involved a crime outside of actual athletics. What is UM's case? Crying about having a bowl ban when there has been several instances of post season bans levied across other member institutions?
You failed to mention USCw and the damning info regarding Todd McNair. Basically the NCAA gave him a show cause becaus "even though there is no proof, McNair lawyered up and thus we think he is dirty". Every time the NCAA has tried to do something in that case they have had their dick slammed in a door. The courts are basically saying to them "you have to prove it and it better be some legit shite and not some little BS stuff to destroy a career". The NCAA would just be smart to settle with him and pay his PAC assistant coaches salary into perpetuity, otherwise they will be getting fined into oblivion.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 11:14 am to ABearsFanNMS
quote:That's a decent analogy.
You failed to mention USCw and the damning info regarding Todd McNair. Basically the NCAA gave him a show cause becaus "even though there is no proof, McNair lawyered up and thus we think he is dirty". Every time the NCAA has tried to do something in that case they have had their dick slammed in a door. The courts are basically saying to them "you have to prove it and it better be some legit shite and not some little BS stuff to destroy a career". The NCAA would just be smart to settle with him and pay his PAC assistant coaches salary into perpetuity, otherwise they will be getting fined into oblivion.
But in the case of OM, do you really think the OM brass will choose to man up to the NCAA and force legal action on them when these infractions span multiple coaching and AD regimes, multiple sports teams, academic fraud?
Posted on 7/1/16 at 11:39 am to ABearsFanNMS
I'm not up to date on the USCw lawsuit. Is Todd McNair an individual or the school?
Posted on 7/1/16 at 12:04 pm to GnashRebel
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If we get hammered, I'll get over it.You do the crime, you do the time. But if I am expected to believe that other coaching staffs outside of Nashville think the Rebears have an unfair advantage and believe they don't have boosters doing as much or more, than I have a problem with that.
Quit crying. You got caught red-handed. Stop making it about other teams. You act like other "elite" teams haven't had their issues. Look at USC, Bama, Ohio State for example
Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:00 pm to 14&Counting
I was referencing a specific statement that "other coaches were up in arms" about Ole Miss you illiterate dipshit.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 7:55 pm to bamasgot13
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compliance was on it, disassociated him, provided a cease & desist,
Your defense of all these items is just as laughable as the "hand-delivered letter" with no trace or trackable documentation used in this case.
Dude there's no way a university even the mighty Alabama finished number 1 in recruiting for eight straight years without some serious systemic corruption. your university, administration, and booster clubs are full of it. From the inappropriate relationship with Mark Emmert, to Mark Womack in the SEC office to Steve Shaw, to the director of compliance for the NCAA who happens to be an Alabama grad. It's a joke. A fricking joke. We're just the only school who calls it what it is.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:36 pm to TailbackU
Lil bro gonna lil bro.
You, phan (et al), and Bowl are consistent, if nothing else.
You, phan (et al), and Bowl are consistent, if nothing else.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:47 pm to Sid E Walker
There are two SEC coaches up in arms about Ole Miss success on the field.
One is a little guy who tucks his hands in his armpits, and the other is a bonafide hunchback.
One is a little guy who tucks his hands in his armpits, and the other is a bonafide hunchback.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 11:12 pm to matthew25
There's a lot coaches than 2. Big 10 coaches are chirping too.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 11:18 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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if someone at Bama ever gets busted for a car i'd be stunned
Yeah that makes two of us
Posted on 7/1/16 at 11:19 pm to ColoradoElkHerd
In all honesty, I feel bad for the Rebs.
To be in that much denial and not realize the position the NCAA is in and that they are going to crucify the one thing they love is tragic.
To be in that much denial and not realize the position the NCAA is in and that they are going to crucify the one thing they love is tragic.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 11:25 pm to RT1941
quote:They've done it before.
But in the case of OM, do you really think the OM brass will choose to man up to the NCAA and force legal action on them when these infractions span multiple coaching and AD regimes, multiple sports teams, academic fraud?
Posted on 7/2/16 at 5:25 am to TouchdownTony
OM boosters have bragged about cheating.
There is a lack of institutional control.
The incoming freshmen will pay the price with no bowls and the money faucet turned off.
There is a lack of institutional control.
The incoming freshmen will pay the price with no bowls and the money faucet turned off.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:19 am to bamasgot13
Ipf
Indoor practice facility
Mao meet him where all the players and coaches meet all the time.
This isn't an exchange at a random secret location if that's what you think is damning in that quoted section,
Indoor practice facility
Mao meet him where all the players and coaches meet all the time.
This isn't an exchange at a random secret location if that's what you think is damning in that quoted section,
Posted on 7/2/16 at 7:04 am to ColoradoElkHerd
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Even Ole Miss apologist Paul Finebaum
I don't claim to be one of the cool kids, that listens to Pawwlll. But now he is an Ole Miss apologist, in addition to UTn alum and Bama ball sucker?
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