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re: National Media Ganging Up On Ole Miss

Posted on 7/1/16 at 8:27 am to
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 8:27 am to
That makes sense then but if they won a few then that would be a deterrent don't ya think? And if they're scared they need to just disband, honestly what's the use in them if they aren't going to enforce anything- speaking in general there not specific to ole miss stuff.
Posted by IDGAF
Lol
Member since Jun 2016
16 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 8:28 am to
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If we get hammered, I'll get over it.You do the crime, you do the time. But if I am expected to believe that other coaching staffs outside of Nashville think the Rebears have an unfair advantage and believe they don't have boosters doing as much or more, than I have a problem with that.
Melt, bitch.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32384 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 8:33 am to
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But if I am expected to believe that other coaching staffs outside of Nashville think the Rebears have an unfair advantage and believe they don't have boosters doing as much or more, than I have a problem with that.
That's the defense I would use against each of the charges in the NOA and the charges to come. Do it!
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 8:33 am to
Gnash isn't much of a melter or a bitch, IMO.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8194 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 8:34 am to
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Melt, bitch.


Patience, my sweet little alter. This isn't the time for melting. Believe me, if brutal sanctions come down I will reward the rant with a stream of bile, vitriol, hate, and tears the likes of which is rarely seen outside of a Bama LSU game thread. But for now, you must wait like everyone else.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8194 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 8:35 am to
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8194 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 8:40 am to
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That makes sense then but if they won a few then that would be a deterrent don't ya think? And if they're scared they need to just disband, honestly what's the use in them if they aren't going to enforce anything- speaking in general there not specific to ole miss stuff.



For sure. I think it as more money gets involved you will see schools bristle at things like bowl bans in a way they used not to. But I think you are correct, they have to take a swing at places like OM because their enforcement has to show it has teeth.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
11132 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 8:47 am to
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They did Bama too during the t-town menswear and dj Fluker scandals, including PF. Doesn't mean anything.


Wait...what? Bama has totally gotten a free pass. The only "press" that picked up on it were guys like Clay Travis and the only reason he picked up on it was because it was a topic on message boards. In fact I was stunned that nothing came of that because there was so much smoke coming from Tuscaloosa it looked like the big burn in Yellowstone. There were scores of photos from the T-town men's wear thing, the book scandal, Josh Chapman's sudden "good grade" at Hoover, T-rent Richardson's house sitting gig and his amazing disappearing car from the hit and run, Brent Callaways' beach escape the night before signing day, Fluker's twitter confession and brand new cadillac, Julio and Ingram's sudden 'fishing buddy', the surge in Dodge Charger sales from a certain dealership in Gadsden...I mean, c'mon.. there were more evidence lying around than the OJ trial.

there...melt over.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59615 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:00 am to
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I just don't think they have enough proof to hammer them without a serious fricking legal battle to follow. NCAA does not want to public ally lose another legal battle.

What would be the legal battle?
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:01 am to
Did you name that file "Things I'm holding against 'Bama until I get the right thread to dump it all in the Rant"?

Or is it, "I'm 'Bamacessed"?
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:07 am to
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Yeah, why does everyone act like the NCAA is scared of that? Legit question, I've wondered that for awhile when reading the many comments saying they wouldn't want that?



You really have to ask this question?
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:10 am to
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If I was the NCAA I would only be worried about getting tangled up in courts every time I made a move against someone. If schools start taking everything to court, it will make it really hard for them to do their job.



If schools just continue to "take them to court" when they are caught breaking the rules they all agreed to abide by, then what's the point of having the NCAA rules. You cheat, you get caught, fricking man up and take your punishment instead of whining like bitches to a "bigger bully".
Posted by DawgGone
Member since Oct 2014
1109 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:22 am to
Hobby Lobby Everybody!!!
Posted by GrantGreen
Member since Jun 2016
48 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:24 am to
You are wrong. Ask miami
Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
3743 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:26 am to
Aahhh....The Packet.
Posted by GrantGreen
Member since Jun 2016
48 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:27 am to
This is why any school negotiates with the NCAA. Do you really think a school would just accept a bowl ban a crippling sanctions? Do you have any idea how important afootball program and its money are worth to a state university. NCAA is treading water basically. Trust me, they know this.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59615 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:41 am to
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Do you really think a school would just accept a bowl ban a crippling sanctions?

No, they would file an appeal.

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Do you have any idea how important a football program and its money are worth to a state university

Absolutely and member institutions understand possible consequences of violations. Member institutions agree to NCAA terms, rules, and regulations. Those rules are established by member institutions. What's the case if Ole miss actually even admitted to these violations in their response letter?

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Trust me,

Rule no. 1 in life, never trust a man that has to state this.

Miami case is where the the NCAA admitted wrongdoing. They paid an outside lawyer for info. Penn State had a case b/c it involved a crime outside of actual athletics. What is UM's case? Crying about having a bowl ban when there has been several instances of post season bans levied across other member institutions?
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8194 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:48 am to
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If schools just continue to "take them to court" when they are caught breaking the rules they all agreed to abide by, then what's the point of having the NCAA rules. You cheat, you get caught, fricking man up and take your punishment instead of whining like bitches to a "bigger bully".


It's gonna be the money that tangles it all up. Back in the day missing bowl games, particularly big ones, just wasn't the giant financial hit it is today. It is enough to get people in a fighting mood. I personally think that as long as it isn't an absurdly harsh punishment OM should take what it gets and move forward but I also understand that when one school gets a bowl ban and another doesn't, and it costs one millions of dollars, you are going to have schools get pissy.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:54 am to
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so much smoke coming from Tuscaloosa it looked like the big burn in Yellowstone

As much as the rest of the conference is getting dominated right now, if other schools had ANYTHING of substance, they'd turn it in (unless they know their house isn't clean and are scared to).

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There were scores of photos from the T-town men's wear thing

compliance was on it, disassociated him, provided a cease & desist, showed NCAA a process and record of education of the athletes, etc. It was looked at.

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the book scandal

that was self found, self reported, and the NCAA put Bama on probation over it. Bama also held 5 starters out for 4 games each. It isn't like there was no punishment for that "crime".

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Josh Chapman's sudden "good grade" at Hoover

proof? Did AU get in trouble for the RB who spent years on campus - eligible the whole time - and then later announced he wasn't able to READ?!

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T-rent Richardson's house sitting gig and his amazing disappearing car from the hit and run

proof?

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Brent Callaways' beach escape the night before signing day

with a family friend that was known since before Callaway was classified as a "prospect" (9th grade) and the one Brent later said was done FOR him b/c he needed a getaway from it all to clear his head? that one?

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Fluker's twitter confession and brand new cadillac

Brand new cadillac? When? Compliance requires every player at Bama - regardless of sport - to provide registration information for their vehicles. this is a fact, trust me. if someone at Bama ever gets busted for a car i'd be stunned. They've covered this well. As for the twitter deal, anyone who has ever met or even talked to DJ knows he doesn't communicate in any way, shape, or form in the style that was posted on that twitter account. I'm not saying he didn't get something from an agent, but that post was straight up a hack by someone trying (badly) to pose as DJ.

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Julio and Ingram's sudden 'fishing buddy',

you mean the guy who was a lifelong AU fan? They were found guilty in that self reported situation and forced to pay back they less than $500 in benefits received.

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the surge in Dodge Charger sales from a certain dealership in Gadsden

What did the NCAA say when you sent them the packet?

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there...melt over

no it isn't. it will never be over for you.


I like how you go through all of this and you do so in such a way as to seemingly imply that your school is as pure as the driven snow.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84918 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:55 am to
poor babies
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