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re: Name a QB your team had on a bad team that would've thrived in better circumstances

Posted on 5/17/25 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by GetPiggywithIt
Ouachita Mountains of Arkansas
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 9:21 pm to
Tyler Wilson-2012
he had good numbers but John L Smith was clueless, still can't believe that team wasn't dead last in the SEC, thanks UK and Auburn.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 9:30 pm to
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Tyler Wilson-2012 he had good numbers but John L Smith was clueless, still can't believe that team wasn't dead last in the SEC, thanks UK and Auburn.


That’s one of the great mysteries in Hog fandom, that team should have won at least 9 games with the returning talent and assistant coaches held over to run petrino’s offense and smith should have been reliable enough to do a decent job or just gotten out of the way.

I’d say the only positive was we only paid Smith $800,000 but that was too much,…SMILE!
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
15414 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 9:31 pm to
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Eric Zeier
Although he left college as the SEC's all time passing leader, it would have been scary to see what he could have done without Ray Goof as his HC.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68769 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 9:50 pm to
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Tommy Hodson for LSU. Imagine if he had Chase and Jefferson or Thomas Jr and Nabers.

I mean he did win two SEC titles at least
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41232 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 9:54 pm to
Matt Jones in today’s systems would have been elite.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
12223 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 9:55 pm to
Bo Nix is the poster child of this thread
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
4825 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 10:02 pm to
State’s is easy. Kevin Fant could have been a great QB but our OL was softer than melted butter in 2002-2003 and as a result he got beat up worse than Joe Frazier did in the 1973 match with George Foreman.

Had we had a decent OL, he could have been an All-SEC QB.
Posted by OhioTiger
Ohio
Member since Oct 2005
536 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 10:06 pm to
Easy…. Jayden Daniels. The defense sucked arse. With just a slightly above average defense, LSU is making the playoffs with a solid chance to win the NC.
Posted by 03 West CoChamps
Member since Sep 2024
165 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 10:08 pm to
Jeremiah Masoli

Grit and determination to 4 wins. That team may not win 2 without him.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
65511 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 10:30 pm to
Jayden Daniels with just a top 50 defense would have cake walked to a NC
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:26 pm to
Mett. If Les opened up more instead of running so much. He had a cannon.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15205 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:31 pm to
Having a really good defense would have likely hurt Daniels’ stats. LSU knew they had to outscore opponents to win. They kept their their foot on the gas all game every game. Had they had a good defense they likely would have taken the ball out of the air and gone conservative to run out the clock in the 4th quarter in a lot of games. Plus, LSU’s defense let the offense get the ball back quickly many times, thus the offense had more possessions.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25725 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:36 pm to
Joe Ferguson.
Posted by rthomas1972
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:39 pm to
dak would have been interesting on another team.....also first post....glad to be here.

co-worker told me about this place so figured I give it a shot
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25725 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:39 pm to
In the triple option.
Posted by OhioTiger
Ohio
Member since Oct 2005
536 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:47 pm to
None of that matters. LSU had the offense to win a NC. If they had a defense to go along with it, they would have had a very legit chance.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
36192 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:48 pm to
Omar Connor
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22959 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 12:12 am to
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I'm going with Brodie Croyle with a Saban O-line and all the offensive talent he brought in.


You are not a serious person. He was a terribly inaccurate deep ball passer. It was as horrifying as watching Shaq shoot free throws. The ball was going to hit something hard, but it sure as frick wasn't likely to be his intended target.

Pretty sure he's still the only qb in the history of the NFL with 10+ starts to never win a game.

This is not a good take.
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 12:14 am
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15205 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 12:18 am to
This was the original thread

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Name a QB your team had on a bad team that would've thrived in better circumstances


You are having a completely different conversation.

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LSU had the offense to win a NC. If they had a defense to go along with it, they would have had a very legit chance.


Daniels did thrive on the team he was on. He won a Heisman trophy. The situation Daniels was in was the perfect situation for him to put up video game numbers. A bad defense combined with a good offensive line, two elite receivers and an average running game that was based largely on Daniels. He was asked to throw the ball for 60 minutes per game. Are you saying that if LSU had a better defense that Daniels would have put up even better stats?
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22959 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 12:19 am to
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Were those teams bad? I dont really remember but I wouldn’t have guessed that. Zeier vs Barker in BDS is one of my all time favorite home games. First time I ever saw the University Blvd shut down.


They were pretty good his first two years.
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