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re: MSU going all in against traitor flag
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:38 am to Henry Jones Jr
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:38 am to Henry Jones Jr
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We stopped flying the flag before State, dumbass
I get where you're coming from with this response to a State fan who is calling your institution racist, but if Ole Miss, a state funded institution, refuses to fly the flag of the state they should also refuse to accept funding from the state since that funding would be as tainted by racism as the flag.
There may come a time when it's a good idea to change the Mississippi state flag, but right now is not that time. This is a time to hold fast and let things calm down a bit first rather than to cede the position to militant leftists who would only be emboldened by their perceived victory over the voices of the voters who chose to keep it as is by a nearly 2-to-1 margin.
I saw this tag on a car many years ago and I believe it's rather accurate today.
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:44 am to Harry Morgan
Who doesn't love a good Felate Johnsons thread.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:45 am to bigDgator
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really don't give a shite, but frick you pussies for trying to rub it in with the proud Southerners. They are some good folks.
Proud southerner and Mississippian by birth. frick the confederate flag, it literally has zero place in 2020. Forget the civil war aspect, That flag was used for voter intimidation, harassing African Americans as schools integrated, and are still seen with white supremacy groups. It’s pretty fricking clear why African Americans wouldn’t like it.
While I’m here, can any of you fricks that get mad about people “disrespecting the flag” by kneeling BUT also love the treasonous flag of the confederacy explain your stance. That’s a bigger slap in the face to ole glory.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 9:48 am
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:48 am to momentoftruth87
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its a flag. What does it have to do with the original argument of George Floyd?
Kind of a dense argument. The State flag contains the Rebel flag, which is:
a) Traitorous to this great country we all love
b) A sign/emblem of the Confederacy that, sure, was for State Rights but that right was for what? Owning cats? Nadda. Clearly slavery.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:53 am to PickupAutist
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Instead of complaining about the flag, out of state people and local hicklibs will just start saying Mississippi is that backward-arse state that didn’t get rid of their no-no flag until 2020
Um...you think the flag is the reason people think Mississippi is a backward-arse state?
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:54 am to parrothead
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While I’m here, can any of you fricks that get mad about people “disrespecting the flag” by kneeling BUT also love the treasonous flag of the confederacy explain your stance. That’s a bigger slap in the face to ole glory.
You goddam right, sir! Amen!
Wish I could give you 10 upvotes.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:55 am to momentoftruth87
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its a flag. What does it have to do with the original argument of George Floyd?
Yeah that’s what sucks. Most everyone was unified and outraged at how Mr. Floyd was killed. People of all backgrounds.
But now there’s this crazy group of radicals dividing everyone, destroying property, and going nuts on Twitter/FB. Sucks.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:01 am to DoubleDown
I’m all for the Mississippi flag coming down. But don’t act like the American flag wasn’t raised by treasonous acts.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:04 am to parrothead
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While I’m here, can any of you fricks that get mad about people “disrespecting the flag” by kneeling BUT also love the treasonous flag of the confederacy explain your stance. That’s a bigger slap in the face to ole glory.
Well for one, it wasn't the "flag of the Confederacy."
Two, nearly every state flag in the South has at least vague ties to the Confederacy.
The Civil War happened and its a huge part of the history of those states.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:15 am to bigDgator
quote:black lives matter is about as legitimate of an organization as the KKK they are both the same just two different sides of the same coin
Only the Black Lives Matter Flag is allowed now. Pretty ironic.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:24 am to SidewalkTiger
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Well for one, it wasn't the "flag of the Confederacy." Two, nearly every state flag in the South has at least vague ties to the Confederacy. The Civil War happened and its a huge part of the history of those states.
Oh I’m sorry A****** flag of the confederacy not THE flag.
See my next statement, now even talking about the civil war. Google image civil rights and confederate flags. You’ll probably see some of my dumb arse family members waving it at African Americans in the 1960s Bc god forbid mee maw is gonna have to send their kid to a mixed race school.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:45 am to Dennis4LSU
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black lives matter is about as legitimate of an organization as the KKK they are both the same just two different sides of the same coin
Exactly. But flag and statue removal will fix the problem.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:51 am to parrothead
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See my next statement, now even talking about the civil war. Google image civil rights and confederate flags. You’ll probably see some of my dumb arse family members waving it at African Americans in the 1960s Bc god forbid mee maw is gonna have to send their kid to a mixed race school.
Sounds like you have a shitty family
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:55 am to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:58 am to SidewalkTiger
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Sounds like you have a shitty family
It was hyperbole but the sentiment remains the same. Come on down to Satartia/Oil City/Tinsley and they’re a dime a dozen. I’ve seen and heard first hand what the same people who fly a confederate battle flag think about African Americans. I know why they use it and why they fly it, the same reason the klan did it in the 60’s. I’ll let you in on a secret, they couldn’t give a frick about it being a Virginia battle flag.
ETA: yea I do have some shitty family members. My parents got harassed about sending me to a public school when I was younger by parents, aunts, and uncles alike. The only time I’ve ever heard my mom yell at her dad was because he said the N word in front of me when I was 7 or 8 and she really laid into him. Guess who hasn’t said the N word around Me in the last 25 years. It was hard me for as a teenager to come to terms with the fact that a lot of my family are genuinely racist arse holes, it fricking sucks but is what it is.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 11:02 am
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:59 am to AsphaltFunk
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I’m all for the Mississippi flag coming down. But don’t act like the American flag wasn’t raised by treasonous acts.
It was but that's revisionist history. Our (the American flag) was raised against tyranny and years/decades of taxation on the American population and not equal taxation of the British citizens. The American flag was to start a new country against britian based on taxation purposes, not the ownership of slaves.
Now, if you want to wave the "Stars and Bars", that's fine, but you are then opposed to the American flag since the Confederate flag was raised in rebellion to that.
However, that flag was raised for the ownership of slaves wrapped in a faux blanket of "states rights".
Anyways, sure, they were both raised in rebellion but for 2 VERRRRRRRRRYYYYYY different reasons. That being said, I'm not British but I am American. If others want to be "Confederate American", cool, get ready to go 0-for-2 against 'Merica!
Posted on 6/25/20 at 11:03 am to Harry Morgan
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Exactly. But flag and statue removal will fix the problem.
Probably not but it's time to go ahead and bring down/tear down status of traitors.
I'm all for replacing them with statues of Nick Saban. He's clearly at the right hand of the Father so that works for me!
Posted on 6/25/20 at 11:04 am to DoubleDown
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Probably not but it's time to go ahead and bring down/tear down status of traitors.
But what is next?
Posted on 6/25/20 at 12:16 pm to Harry Morgan
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But what is next?
That's a fair question/point. I can't answer, I dunno. I think some radicals will want ANY statue of a white person torn down, however, society has to draw the lines and define them.
For me, personally:
1) Civil War statue of a Southern General or whatever = fair game to take down or rename
2) Any other historical figure needs to be taken into context. This is where it gets tricky.
But I think we can do #1 above without having to worry about #2 or at least let those lines for #2 be drawn.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 12:19 pm to parrothead
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Proud southerner and Mississippian by birth. frick the confederate flag, it literally has zero place in 2020. Forget the civil war aspect, That flag was used for voter intimidation, harassing African Americans as schools integrated, and are still seen with white supremacy groups. It’s pretty fricking clear why African Americans wouldn’t like it.
While I’m here, can any of you fricks that get mad about people “disrespecting the flag” by kneeling BUT also love the treasonous flag of the confederacy explain your stance. That’s a bigger slap in the face to ole glory.
First... This whole logic is flawed. "Ole Glory" presided over slavery longer than the 4 years of CSA.
By your logic for removing it, so should the American flag.
Have you thought about the % of black people YOU are slapping in the face by placing them in some sort of group think box where there is no individuality? Kind of a racist tone.
Here is some logic for you. The idea of the USA is that all men are created equal. That we will strive to become greater by following the laws within the constitution. The USA flag has seen many changes in this nation. It expanded it's hope to ALL CITIZENS of this nation.
Stay with me here... cause here is the logic. This nation is made up of States. The STATES formed the union. EACH state has it's own story much like the USA Flag. For some, the flag of the state represents all of the changes that people have striven for. That includes the struggles won. That includes those that you try to place in a box as a race.
Believe it or not, there are those of all races that do disagree with you and the are not racist. They do not support racism. They simply see things differently.
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