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re: MSU going all in against traitor flag

Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:24 pm to
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The Floyd murder has cause an increased awareness in Police Brutality against minorities



Latest stats... 8000 deaths. 10 were by police vs unarmed black individuals and 6 of those were physically attacking the police.


Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52561 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:25 pm to
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For me, personally: 
1) Civil War statue of a Southern General or whatever = fair game to take down or rename 
2) Any other historical figure needs to be taken into context. This is where it gets tricky. 

But I think we can do #1 above without having to worry about #2 or at least let those lines for #2 be drawn.


They're way ahead of you.

They took down and decapitated the statue of a known abolitionist and Union Army hero in Wisconsin Tuesday.

Slippery slope indeed.
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:25 pm to
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Holy frick you’re an obtuse son of a bitch. Wtf does black lives matter have to do with being a decent person and not flying confederate bull shite. frick you for even hinting I support BLM the organization. Those aren’t mutually inclusive. Both anything confederate related and the trained Marxist of BLM can go frick themselves.

When the flags and statues are gone, what’s next.
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
4446 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:27 pm to
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When the flags and statues are gone, what’s next.


That’s a fair question that can’t be answered. Maybe I’ll change my tune when it’s something worthy of an actual cause.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 1:29 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52561 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:27 pm to
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People can't complain about MS always being the butt of jokes and referred to "50th" state when they carry on doing the same as they always have. If you want everyone to call you ignorant and racist then by all means keep the flag, but don't try and play the victim when everyone calls you out on it.


None of that has anything to do with the flag.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 1:31 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52561 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:31 pm to
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That’s a fair question that can’t be answered. Maybe I’ll change my tune when it’s something worthy of an actual cause.


You mean like the statue of the known abolitionist and Union War hero that was taken down and decapitated Tuesday in Wisconsin?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:33 pm to
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Holy frick you’re an obtuse son of a bitch.


Learn to read.

I stated

Stop being putting people in a box that you demand they stay in and understand that not all black people even support BLM let alone the removal of statues and flags.

quote:

Wtf does black lives matter have to do with being a decent person and not flying confederate bull shite.



I stated clearly that not all black people support the removal of the flag. I stated clearly in a summary sentence that JUST LIKE NOT ALL BLACK PEOPLE SUPPORT BLM, NOT ALL SUPPORT REMOVING THE FLAG AND STATUES.

So now you are saying with this comment:

with being a decent person and not flying confederate bull shite

That blacks that don't agree with you are not decent.


quote:

frick you for even hinting I support BLM the


Learn to read. I never stated that you did. I stated, once again, that people need to stop putting all black in a box as if they can't think for themselves. That actually has racist undertones.

I used the example of not every black person supporting BLM.





Would you like to calm down so that you can actually read what somebody said and open your eyes and mind a bit?
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
4446 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:33 pm to
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You mean like the statue of the known abolitionist and Union War hero that was taken down and decapitated Tuesday in Wisconsin?


That’s not the question at hand. frick them.

Confederate anything is the hill I’m not even thinking about much less dying on.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:34 pm to
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That’s a fair question that can’t be answered. Maybe I’ll change my tune when it’s something worthy of an actual cause.



Ok.. What about if they come after MLK?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52561 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:35 pm to
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That’s not the question at hand. frick them. 

Confederate anything is the hill I’m not even thinking about much less dying on.


This has evolved way past anything Confederate related.

As most of us said it would.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:39 pm to
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That’s not the question at hand


Yes it is. It's all the same movement. So you disagree with the next thing but this same movement decides it has to go (whatever that it is).. then what?

Maybe there are not enough voices to stand up.


It's very much so the question at hand
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21256 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 1:41 pm to
It is not a bout taking statues down because of racism. It is a bout controlling the narrative. These statues are offensive and are being taken down. But it is ok to erect statues of individuals that are enemies of the United States? This will happen soon of political tyrants that were nothing more than failures that lost power from war or uprisings.

Will people allow these events to be rewritten in books and become the new statues in this nation? When is the American flag replaced?
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 2:39 pm to
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I gave the answer. Because for some it's much like the USA flag where it meant battles won

When you fricking lose the War, you furl your fricking flag, did that happen, hell frick no, despite losing the War, you fly flags that honor a treasonous traitorous cowardly loser racist arse confederacy

2nd of all a-hole, you don't fly a flag OVER INDIVIDUAL BATTLES won, you fly a flag when the WAR IS WON, that didn't happen, so merely flying these flags, or embedding them in any way with any State Flag is disgusting and in poor taste, but I guess you have to be "an outsider" to see it that way

The reason we have these flags and monuments to start with is the Deep South wanted to rewrite History AND intimidate Minorities that found themselves with the same Freedoms on paper that whites had, these flags and monuments were used to intimidate and keep minorities from realizing the American Dream, full freedom, something that people like you take for granted
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52561 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 2:41 pm to
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2nd of all a-hole, you don't fly a flag OVER INDIVIDUAL BATTLES won, you fly a flag when the WAR IS WON, that didn't happen, so merely flying these flags, or embedding them in any way with any State Flag is disgusting and in poor taste, but I guess you have to be "an outsider" to see it that way 


Georgia has basically the same flag as the Confederacy had.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 7:14 pm to
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Georgia has basically the same flag as the Confederacy had

Play stupid all you want, the background for the GA State flag has never been photographed at a lynching or a cross burning or a Klan rally

Maybe you guys should be as smart as GA is, personally I don't like the Ga Flag , but the image elicits a much less visceral response than the confed battle flag

You're talking technicalities and I'm talking about a symbol clearly associated with way more hate than the confed states flag aka Ga Flag
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 7:26 pm to
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Latest stats... 8000 deaths. 10 were by police vs unarmed black individuals and 6 of those were physically attacking the police.

Your a-hole stats are immaterial

TRAINED PROFESSIONAL POLICE OFFICERS need to be able to bring in unarmed persons alive that are ACCUSED of a crime so they can await DUE PROCESS

How is it that so many BLACK POLICE OFFICERS are able to bring drunk or high white perps alive when they resist arrest, don't try to claim that drug using whites & drunk whites fight back less than Black perps?

Why are Black Cops so good at bringing in folks alive that resist, especially when they are white & unarmed?

Random crime is caused by a complex matrix of variables, interactions between unarmed Perps that resist and Cops have far fewer variables because the Cops are supposed to be trained experts in arresting a resisting person and keeping them alive

Your continued agenda of comparing RANDOM CRIME between 2 civilians vs Police interactions vs unarmed persons only shows how stupid you are

Stop being stupid guy, life is too short to waste time being stupid
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