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re: Mount Rushmore of All-Time Worst SEC Coaches

Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:11 am to
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:11 am to
Jones didn't coach the last 2 games of his last year. He was fired at 4-6 so technically no, he isn't. Dooley was 1-15 in conference his last 2 seasons combined. Butch was never close to that bad.
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 11:12 am
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:11 am to
Croom doesnt belong if Harsin isnt there.
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:16 am to
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The fact that TWO Tennessee coaches from the 2010’s made the list ahead of Butch Jones is absolutely wild.


Butch Jones was an average coach. He is nowhere near one of the worst. He was arguably better than Ray Goff for us.
Posted by Jumpinjack
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:16 am to
Dubose
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:21 am to
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The fact that TWO Tennessee coaches from the 2010’s made the list ahead of Butch Jones is absolutely wild.


#blessed
Posted by Tejada
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:22 am to
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Shula wasn't even our worst coach this millennium


Maybe I'm giving Dubose too much credit due to his SEC title but if you stuck a gun to my head and told me to choose between Shula and Dubose, I'd rather you just pull the trigger.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:24 am to



Would be on the Auburn Mt Rushmore
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:27 am to
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Jones didn't coach the last 2 games of his last year. He was fired at 4-6 so technically no, he isn't. Dooley was 1-15 in conference his last 2 seasons combined. Butch was never close to that bad.


Butch won 1 conference game without Josh Dobbs as a starter.

Again. You're looking at the record. I'm looking at the program. Butch Jones was the dumbest of the three, and was carried by Josh Dobbs and two highly touted recruiting classes. If Josh Dobbs goes to Virginia Tech or Georgia Tech, Jones doesn't make it past year two.
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 11:31 am
Posted by Themicah86
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:30 am to
I forgot how bad arse Dooley orange pants were. I'd say he was better than Pruitt.
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:31 am to
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Butch Jones was an average coach. He is nowhere near one of the worst. He was arguably better than Ray Goff for us.


Yet another one who looks at the record but not any deeper.
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:37 am to
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Yet another one who looks at the record but not any deeper.


is that not what coaches are evaluated on?
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:39 am to
I definitely didn't think this at the time, but in hindsight, Shula did a pretty good job of keeping the program from completely falling apart to the point where no one could save it (ie. Miami, Nebraska, etc.)

Timing was also bad for him as SEC dominance started around the same time he took over.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:41 am to
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No Ray Goff?


Do you honestly think Ray Goff is one of the 4 worst head coaches in the history of hte SEC? He went a combined 19-5 in 91/92 and beat Ohio State in the citrus bowl to finish in the top 10 after 92. He had really bad years too but he is no way whatsoever one of the worst of all time.
Posted by WhiskeyRiverBlues
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:45 am to
He was a terrible coach, but Butch could recruit very well just not at positions of desperate need. With him it was just all about getting as many 4 stars as possible with a 5 star here and there.

That 2016 Tennessee roster was very talented on the two deep.
Posted by RECConspiracy
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:45 am to
Shula’s record vs Auburn makes him seem worse. Same with Bill Curry. But he definitely wasn’t altogether bad. I really credit Joe Kines though for that defense always being solid. Kept Bama in games and won some games they should have lost
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:50 am to
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He was a terrible coach, but Butch could recruit very well just not at positions of desperate need. With him it was just all about getting as many 4 stars as possible with a 5 star here and there.


He didn't actually recruit any better than Pruitt or Heupel, or Kiffin, or anybody that's been at Tennessee. He just happened to have two strong in-state and legacy filled classes back to back. The only real big recruiting win he had was Kamara, who was looked at as damaged goods.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:54 am to
Harsin is easily #1. At least all the others on this list tried to recruit. Harsin couldn’t even get into the Saban rehab program after Auburn.
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:55 am to
Croom?
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18202 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:57 am to
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Ears Whitworth - Alabama

He's a must IMO
Posted by skipjackbama
Member since Apr 2023
1502 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:57 am to
The 2003 season was easily the worst coaching job i have ever seen. He took a team that went 10-2 the year before and shite the bed with it.

Especially when he had 17 players on the first team O and D that made NFL rosters. Thats criminal
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 12:01 pm
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