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re: Most recent SEC endowment rankings
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:19 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:19 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
LSU is planning on a billion dollar fundraising campaign to raise its endowment.
Full disclosure we should probably ask our rich little brother for a few hundred mill. We’ll trade for that ever elusive football victory
Full disclosure we should probably ask our rich little brother for a few hundred mill. We’ll trade for that ever elusive football victory
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:22 pm to tigerbait2010
Give us Aranda and a split in basketball for $250 mil and you’ve got yourself a god damn deal, Rondell
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:22 pm to Evolved Simian
$683 million
Google
Wait, so Google is wrong? And you're still admitting you're in 10th place right?
Wait, so Google is wrong? And you're still admitting you're in 10th place right?
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:24 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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if it's an SEC topic
SEC - Athletic conference
Endowment - Not athletics
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:24 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I bet 90% of this board doesn't even understand specifically what an endowment is and how it is able to be used.
It’s like, when someone gives a bunch of money to a school, right?
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:29 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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1. Texas A&M - 9.754 billion
Amazes me that public universities sit on billions of dollars and yet they are free to raise tuition to the point where the average student leaves college with thousands of dollars in debt.
I'm generally as conservative as one gets, and I support free markets. But typically schools are very limited on even being able to take any money from the endowment pool. What's the point of all this money just being stockpiled and none of it ever being used?... especially when some kids are leaving college with over $100,000 in debt.
It just seems wrong.
I have no problem with Vanderbilt. They are private. But all of these other schools are public and being funded by the states all while charging ridiculous amounts of money for tuition and sitting on billions of dollars.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:32 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Give us Aranda
We tried. He wasn't bout it.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:37 pm to UAtide11
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The purpose of an endowment is not to maximize ROI, more about wealth preservation
Read another link where the top 25 richest actually had 12% YTD return...not bad at all.So I'm assuming some are in the market.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:39 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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"Texas A&M College Station endowment"
Ohhh Lordy, you've done it now. The gays will be all over this thought process
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:40 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Half expected a Myles Garrett Instagram thread 
, relieved that we're talking about something else.
, relieved that we're talking about something else. 
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:40 pm to RD Dawg
same way you want to structure your money when you retire
live off most of the interest, but reinvest a small percentage of the interest to grow the principle
so then you give yourself a pay raise each year and never touch the principle
live off most of the interest, but reinvest a small percentage of the interest to grow the principle
so then you give yourself a pay raise each year and never touch the principle
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:42 pm to Razorback Reverend
they finna demand a Brokeback Mountain TV Series now
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:44 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Billionaires club
The rest of you poors stay away
The rest of you poors stay away
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1. Texas A&M - 9.754 billion
2. Vanderbilt - 4.1 billion
3. Florida - 1.61 billion
4. Mizzou - 1.477 billion
5. Kentucky - 1.28 billion
6. Tennessee - 1.1 billion
7. Georgia - 1.017 billion
8. Arkansas - 1 billion
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:47 pm to BHMKyle
I mean, AM has like 11 schools they feed. They need more money.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:47 pm to RD Dawg
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Read another link where the top 25 richest actually had 12% YTD return...not bad at all.So I'm assuming some are in the market.
It's not like they are dumping all of it into money market funds. It was almost impossible to not make money in the last year+.
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And yet the report’s tone was far from rosy. Endowment returns have been volatile in the past decade, pinging up with double-digit returns one year before dropping to negative or flat returns the next. That’s brought the 10-year average investment return to 4.6%, down from a 10-year return of 5% last year. Colleges generally aim for a long-term average of about 7% to support annual spending and management fees for the foreseeable future.
They shoot for 7% returns and generally pay out 4-5% annually. So steady, small-scale growth. Also after the most recent recession a number of endowment funds had to kind of re-calibrate because they were a little bit over exposed.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:49 pm to BHMKyle
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Amazes me that public universities sit on billions of dollars and yet they are free to raise tuition to the point where the average student leaves college with thousands of dollars in debt.
I'm generally as conservative as one gets, and I support free markets. But typically schools are very limited on even being able to take any money from the endowment pool. What's the point of all this money just being stockpiled and none of it ever being used?... especially when some kids are leaving college with over $100,000 in debt.
It just seems wrong.
I have no problem with Vanderbilt. They are private. But all of these other schools are public and being funded by the states all while charging ridiculous amounts of money for tuition and sitting on billions of dollars.
While I sympathize completely, you kinda answered your own question -- the endowment itself isn't available to pay student costs. The operational budgets for most universities comes from fresh revenue, not endowments. The endowments are a hedge against hard times, not a slush fund for general use. If they spent it, the endowment would shrink. Even if they only spent returns or interest, it would remain static, which, for some of the smaller endowments, means their margin for hedging against bad times remains slim.
Also, think of it as a per-student number. When you actually break down the system-wide numbers, the ratio is pretty damned small. Even for Vandy -- while our small student body means our dollars-per-student would dwarf everyone else's, possibly to the point of being close to the rest of the SEC combined, it still wouldn't be a very big number.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:51 pm to UAtide11
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It's not like they are dumping all of it into money market funds
Who said that?
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They shoot for 7% returns and generally pay out 4-5% annually. So steady, small-scale growth
The same site had em @ 4% over a 10 year average.Once again,not bad at all.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:51 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
those are the rankings for the "house" of each school.
I guarantee you that Alabama is 1st in the ranking of the "front porch" of each school.
front porch equals football and house equals academics.
front porch matters, house doesn't.
I guarantee you that Alabama is 1st in the ranking of the "front porch" of each school.
front porch equals football and house equals academics.
front porch matters, house doesn't.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I’m pretty well endowed
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:54 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Auburn's is not correct, either. Your number does not correspond to the assets of the AUF for either 2016 OR 2017.
And Arkansas is overstated by $465 million dollars.
Jesus Christ, Harry.
That's 0 for the first 3 in alphabetical order. There's not a factual number in the OP.
And Arkansas is overstated by $465 million dollars.
Jesus Christ, Harry.
That's 0 for the first 3 in alphabetical order. There's not a factual number in the OP.
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