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Missouri- was Woody Widenhofer considered the worst coach in school history? I see
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:33 am
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:33 am
That he compiled a smooth 12-31-1 record while coaching at CoMo in the mid to late 1980’s. Who else compares throughout your history?
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:41 am to Slums_Alum
probably but he was also saddled with an AD that intentionally undercut the football program at every turn in order to promote academics.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:46 am to Slums_Alum
Not a Missouri fan...but by looking at the records:
Widenhofer - 4 seasons, .284 win percentage overall; .333 percentage in conference
Stull - 5 seasons, .291 win percentage overall; .229 in conference
Widenhofer's - 4 point loss at #1 Oklahoma and 3 point loss at Indiana in 1987 weren't bad losses. Win either of those and they are bowl eligible. Stull never got close to having a bowl-eligible team.
Just my 2 cents.
Widenhofer - 4 seasons, .284 win percentage overall; .333 percentage in conference
Stull - 5 seasons, .291 win percentage overall; .229 in conference
Widenhofer's - 4 point loss at #1 Oklahoma and 3 point loss at Indiana in 1987 weren't bad losses. Win either of those and they are bowl eligible. Stull never got close to having a bowl-eligible team.
Just my 2 cents.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:49 am to Slums_Alum
You obviously have never heard of Bob Stull ...
1993 Bob Stull 3-7-1
1992 Bob Stull 3-8
1991 Bob Stull 3-7-1
1990 Bob Stull 4-7
1989 Bob Stull 2-9
A solid 15-38-2 record ...
At least Woody won 5 games in a season (once) ...
/Bob was coach during my time at the Zou. Lots of half gatorade/Southern Comfort drank on the Rock M.
1993 Bob Stull 3-7-1
1992 Bob Stull 3-8
1991 Bob Stull 3-7-1
1990 Bob Stull 4-7
1989 Bob Stull 2-9
A solid 15-38-2 record ...
At least Woody won 5 games in a season (once) ...
/Bob was coach during my time at the Zou. Lots of half gatorade/Southern Comfort drank on the Rock M.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:49 am to Slums_Alum
Mizzou isn’t the easiest place to recruit to. Back then, the Big8 had two dominant teams. Sometimes a third team would sneak in and have a decent season but usually Nebraska or Oklahoma dominated
Posted on 12/16/25 at 12:07 pm to Slums_Alum
Woody was known for getting drunk.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 12:10 pm to AmishSamurai
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You obviously have never heard of Bob Stull ...
True. At least Andy Reid is in his coaching tree though.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 12:18 pm to Slums_Alum
In terms of overall record, Pinkel was one of our best but I’d consider him one of the worst because he bowed to the BLM crap. It destroyed the program for several years. I didn’t watch a game until a couple of years into Drink’s tenure.
I’ll never forgive Pinkel. So stupid.
I’ll never forgive Pinkel. So stupid.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 12:36 pm to madmaxvol
Stull also had to deal with the exact same AD issues as Woody. Hard to really judge either given they had both hands tied behind their backs.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 12:40 pm to tpatten
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Woody was known for getting drunk.
That must be a common trait among Mizzou coaches.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 12:53 pm to Slums_Alum
Bob Stull is right there with him
Posted on 12/16/25 at 12:54 pm to Slums_Alum
He worked a Toll Booth in Destin after leaving Vandy. Ultimate retirement job. Said he liked meeting people.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 12:59 pm to Slums_Alum
Woody's wagon crashed and burned, and ran over the future prospects of Mizzou football in the process. Not sure it was because he was a bad coach (but the record is what it is). As others have said, the administration at the time was about anything and everything NOT related to football or athletics in general. The chancellor was all about campus beutification and pretended to be about academics (both of which she made very little progress on), and the AD had no spine to stand up to her and the facilities fell way behind. If not for Norm Stewart already having the basketball program established those years would have been really, really bleak.
I will say this for Woody - he started off great, recruited the number 1 running back in the country (Tony Van Zant out of St Louis), and a top option QB out of East St. Louis (running the option was king back then). It all unraveled before TVZ ever stepped on campus when he blew out his knee in a High School all star game. TVZ never recovered fully (altho he did play some), Woody never recovered, Stull followed with the same results, and Mizzou was dead in football for a long time. I was there and I lived through it with a few dozen others that still attended the games. Stull did beat Colorado the year they were voted national champs - except the Big 8 referees forgot how to count to 4 and then gifted CU a TD on down 5.
I will say this for Woody - he started off great, recruited the number 1 running back in the country (Tony Van Zant out of St Louis), and a top option QB out of East St. Louis (running the option was king back then). It all unraveled before TVZ ever stepped on campus when he blew out his knee in a High School all star game. TVZ never recovered fully (altho he did play some), Woody never recovered, Stull followed with the same results, and Mizzou was dead in football for a long time. I was there and I lived through it with a few dozen others that still attended the games. Stull did beat Colorado the year they were voted national champs - except the Big 8 referees forgot how to count to 4 and then gifted CU a TD on down 5.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:09 pm to Slums_Alum
Stull was worse. Way worse. The program was dead until a decent few years from Larry Smith. And then Pinkel did very well until he let the players basically revolt.
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:51 pm to El Segundo Guy
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Stull was worse. Way worse. The program was dead until a decent few years from Larry Smith. And then Pinkel did very well until he let the players basically revolt.
Yes. Dead.
Like kU over the past 17 years.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:59 pm to notsince98
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saddled with an AD that intentionally undercut the football program at every turn in order to promote academics.
That was the chancellor, Babs Uhling.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:00 pm to New Money
Have you been to como?
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:35 pm to wesfau
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Have you been to como?
From an Auburn fan?
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:42 pm to Slums_Alum
Still was horrible
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