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Mike Leach experiment

Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
9131 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:21 pm
I think we have mixed results here. It’s not often we outplay LSU and lose, but I’m not sure it’s the offense. It’s one predicated on not beating yourself and we have failed miserably there. Turnovers via fumble and special teams plays have been killer. My analysis is that it CAN work, but it’s slow, boring, ball control and when you have a QB that isn’t a run threat, you really have no room for stuff that routinely happens during football games (false starts, dropped passes, dumb plays). The rush 3 drop 8 is the only thing Leach will ever see and this check dow for 5 yards is a snoozefest, but effective given mistake free football…but people frick up…to err is human…but my forgiveness is wearing thin.


I would still say I’m disappointed where we are, but I think the main thing is I’m disappointed with his aloofness and general lack of knowledge in how to manage a game and what is happening on the field. He doesn’t really appear to care if we win or lose. That’s the biggest concern for me. Very disappointed in how disconnected he is from the game. Dude is a space cadet and I’m afraid it’s always going to be that way.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
6328 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:24 pm to
I tried to warn MSU fans after the win over LSU last year that this was going to be the case and got pilloried for it.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:25 pm to
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I tried to warn MSU fans after the win over LSU last year that this was going to be the case and got pilloried for it.


Its classic Leach, people will fall for it again this year when he pulls an upset later in the year.
Posted by GoHoGsGo06
Member since Nov 2006
5739 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:26 pm to
That offense works against like 70% of college football defense. The problem is that SEC defenses are mostly in that 30% range that it won’t work against. The defensive lines here cause too much havoc to just dink and dunk 5 yards at a time for 15 plays without error like you said.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:27 pm to
Miss state gave up 10 yards per play in the 2nd half.
Posted by MaroonMonsoon
Canton
Member since Aug 2014
3875 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

easy money


Anyone who watched the game knows how deceiving that stat is
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:31 pm to
Air Raid was created to attack defenses built on stuffing the run, blitzing and man coverage.

All the different spread offenses and RPO offenses have created a whole different defensive style that the Air Raid does not have advantages against.

Leach is too late to have success in the SEC...defenses have evolved too much.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 9:32 pm
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18490 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:32 pm to
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It’s not often we outplay LSU and lose
They didn’t outplay LSU. They just picked up tons of yards between the 20’s.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12118 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:33 pm to
Instant gratification fans always amaze me. No matter how good of a job a school does setting expectations and timelines for new coaches some people just are not capable of understanding it. I’m amazed that if it wasn’t because of bonehead special teams plays we would be undefeated. I’m looking forward to the second half of the season and seeing these players continue to develop. We do have to recruit an offensive line in the off-season.
Posted by Jcrew
Gulf coast
Member since Aug 2012
990 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:35 pm to
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Miss state gave up 10 yards per play in the 2nd half


Outside of the 3 blown coverage passes for 40+ yards State shut LSU down. Your Stat is skewed.

However, 3 blown big plays gets you beat in the SEC.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90358 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:35 pm to
Leach first 2 seasons everywhere he has gone weren’t good.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
6328 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:37 pm to
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They didn’t outplay LSU. They just picked up tons of yards between the 20’s.


Absolutely this.

We have people here that unfamiliar with the Air Raid? Hasn't changed at all since the days of Hal Mumme and and Tim Couch.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72813 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:38 pm to
Miss State just reverting back to the mean of suckage. It’s just math and science
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42343 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:38 pm to
It didn't exactly set the sec on fire when he and Mumme ran it at Kentucky 25 years ago...
Posted by VeryReauxna_ish
Bossier City
Member since Dec 2020
1938 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:38 pm to
Ya'll were down 18 in the 4th quarter and never had the ball with a chance to tie or take the lead in the second half but "outplayed" LSU and lost. Good call.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64376 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:39 pm to
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Outside of the 3 blown coverage passes for 40+ yards State shut LSU down. Your Stat is skewed.


And until the 4th quarter, State did nothing the entire game
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 9:42 pm
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

Leach first 2 seasons everywhere he has gone weren’t good.


That's 2 places....no guarantee that stays constant.

And does not factor in that he doesn't evolve yet defenses have.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 9:50 pm
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42343 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:51 pm to
And in the seasons his teams had the potential to win something of substance, he blows it in the big game of the regular season.

Now he has several big games of the season every year.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29445 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

Outside of the 3 blown coverage passes for 40+ yards State shut LSU down.

Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22682 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:54 pm to
Barry Odom killed Mike Leach's career in the SEC. It took 2 games and the league had the blueprint to beat him... And he will never change. Chizick said last year that he has run the exact same offense and plays for 20 years and everyone knows it.

The 3-2-6 defense with great D linemen is the kryponite to that offense.
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