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re: Miami HC resigning immediately - citing the professional athlete model we have now.

Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:03 am to
Posted by 6columns
Member since Jun 2024
1251 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:03 am to
Strike up the violins for this ultra wealthy crybaby. Coaches quit on their teams all the time, or walk away with huge buyouts after getting fired. Such a rough life.

Posted by Old School Tex
North Carolina
Member since Jul 2021
865 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:16 am to
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Strike up the violins for this ultra wealthy crybaby. Coaches quit on their teams all the time, or walk away with huge buyouts after getting fired. Such a rough life.


Agreed… he’ll be buying an $80,000 bass boat or the equivalent, depending on what his hobbies are…
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
15467 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:36 am to
I was curious what his salary was, and considering the guy has been to two final fours he's underpaid compared to others with the same accomplishments.

$2.6M ain't nothing to sneeze at, but he wasn't making north of $2M a year until 2019. The guy has been grinding as far as basketball head coaches go.
Posted by Old School Tex
North Carolina
Member since Jul 2021
865 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 3:17 am to
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I was curious what his salary was, and considering the guy has been to two final fours he's underpaid compared to others with the same accomplishments. $2.6M ain't nothing to sneeze at, but he wasn't making north of $2M a year until 2019. The guy has been grinding as far as basketball head coaches go.


There are only a few people who can be a successful major college sport coach now… who are talented and can handle all of the pressures and demands from all sides…

Miami HC salary not huge comparatively, but after a cooling off and transition period, this guy will be OK. He can buy that bass boat, or a nice Grady-White bay and ocean cruiser and enjoy life…
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4911 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 3:44 am to
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Literally anything goes and it's made their job very difficult.

Coaches have been coming and going for decades. Nothing has stopped them from going elsewhere for another dollar or a better opportunity to win. They have moved freely.
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Eh, a good coach is more valuable now more than ever.

Negative.

A rich program can just buy players now. That recruiting pitch isn’t as important. X’s and O’s might be more important, but that’s never been as central to college coaching success as recruiting.
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And now you want the players to make millions while college educated middle class folks are struggling to make ends meet in this economy? Weird.

The point was if these college coaches are so big on education and development, then leave the entertainment industry (aka major college football and basketball) and go coach high school where no one in the public cares.
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Not even close. Players come and players go. The vast majority of your players could be replaced by some random G5 dudes and nobody would notice

Bahahaha!

Everyone here would agree that 2001 Miami and 2019 LSU are two of the greatest college teams of all time - and yet they were coached by shitty head coaches.

Many teams have won a national title with mediocre coaches. Not too many with mediocre rosters.

Line up a bunch of G5 rosters and P4 staffs against a P4 rosters and G5 staffs and see how that turns out.
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So many people in here are putting these guys on a pedestal like their skills cannot be replaced, especially on a 4-8 team

Then don’t pay them. Replace them all with… whoever… and go win a national title.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
33231 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:30 am to
This is the future a lot of fans wanted, citing it as a road to "parity" in college athletics.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:30 am to
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n the professional world, there is a hierarchy. The bosses generally get cushy treatment compared to low level workers.


And talent gets paid more than management in businesses where talent is key.

Take movies for example.

Robert Downey Jr. made 75 million dollars from Iron Man 3. More than anyone else associated with the movie.

People need to remember who we watch. I watch the players for UGA. I don't watch Kirby Smart. I like how he builds a team, but it's the team I'm interested in... not him. I like them making some profit off of it.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
33231 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:31 am to
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It is also worth noting that he's in the middle of a disastrous season.


And it's disastrous WHY, exactly?

This wasn't a team filled with upper classmen, all preparing to go to the draft.

This was a team with younger players, set for another good run... only to see them bolt AFTER A FINAL FOUR appearance.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
33231 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:32 am to
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Trying to compare the two is very short-sighted and ignorant.


This is basically the MO of tRant sometimes
Posted by Man4others
Member since Aug 2017
2351 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:41 am to
What a baby. Rick Barnes had guys go the the NBA and guys leave after they demanded more money, What did Rick do? Went to the portal and brought in a few guys.

If you get guys to the NBA, you have a good culture and you can pay them some, they will stay.
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 8:42 am
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
35033 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:44 am to
Don't watch much basketball until March Madness but I have sort of become that way as a fan. Why bother or even care anymore? Were I a fan of one of the 4 or 5 that are going to be there every year, I guess I would love it. I don't even bother to learn our players' names anymore.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:51 am to
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When we look at it like this for what it is he really doesn’t have a good argument. It’s ok for me but not for you. Not a good look.



One is a professional who is trying to make a career out of coaching basketball, the other is (supposedly) an amateur athlete trying to get an education. This has been the dynamic for the last 150+ years of collegiate athletics but, for some reason, gets lost on people.
Posted by MosesRAB93
Dallas area
Member since Apr 2014
340 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:56 am to
I think a lot of respondents didn’t watch the video. He builds up to the quote at the end by saying he can no longer give his job 100%.

My main issues with NIL:
1. After putting two kids thru college, I’m tired of them acting like a free education is nothing.
2. What is happening now is NOT NIL in most cases.

This is only going to fuel a larger issue in society (started by the everyone gets a trophy, everyone can be a cheerleader, etc. and continued with the absolute destruction of educational standards / OK to mail it in / $20 and hour should be the bare minimum wrought by Covid):

No one wants to put in the work; they only look for shortcuts.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:56 am to
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You owe it to the school and the players.


To the school, maybe, but not to the players. Half of them were probably going to leave him for Kansas or Duke at the end of the season anyway.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13588 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:21 am to
I 100% get what he is saying, but resigning in the middle of the season is kind of crazy. He is citing stuff that happened in the offseason and he decided to keep coaching, but now he decides it's time to quit?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66786 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:22 am to
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To the school, maybe, but not to the players. Half of them were probably going to leave him for Kansas or Duke at the end of the season anyway.

In Miami's case Larranaga lost players to Bryant, Providence, Mississippi State, Southern Miss, and Saint Louis.
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 9:24 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66786 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:24 am to
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He is citing stuff that happened in the offseason and he decided to keep coaching, but now he decides it's time to quit?

Odd, huh? Especially when you consider he was generally upbeat and took a positive outlook when Bennett from Virginia retired in the offseason for pretty much the same reasons.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13588 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:25 am to
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That’s what the adults get to do. They get to take a job in a bigger conference for more money. If these kids are so damn good at basketball, go to the GLeague like some of the recent cats have. Oh, what’s that? They like the pampered life of a D1 athlete and the platform it gives them? Sorry, these athletes are kids and have a different set of rules.

So if they were to go to the G League would you not consider them kids anymore?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45396 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:31 am to
Reminds me of Spurrier quitting USCe at an old age

I think NIL was just a copout since NIL worked against him this time.
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
24482 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:41 am to
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It’s complete garbage. Restrictions have to be put in place. Allow NIL deals with enforceable contracts that require the player to remain at the team a certain number of years, require participation in postseason play, financial penalties for breaking the contract, etc.

And limit the transfer portal to players only allowed 1 free transfer. After that, you must sit out a year and lose a year of eligibility if you transfer again or burn a redshirt to keep the eligibility. Exception will be if team undergoes coaching change.

I cannot understand why this post got two downvotes. This is exactly the way NIL and the portal needs to be operated.

I’m at the point that I like the NFL more than CFB.
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