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re: Mark Richt First 3 Seasons vs Kirby Smart First 3 Seasons

Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:16 am to
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:16 am to
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Why would anyone compare Miami results to Georgia results when we can actually compare Georgia results with Georgia results?


YOU'RE the one comparing the 2 coaches and seem to have forgotten what CMR accomplished the 2nd half of bis career and refuse to compare CMR's last 3 to CKS first 3.

ONCE AGAIN,CMR was left with more talent than CKS ESPECIALLY when you look at senior classes...not even close.

Our roster in SEVENTY percent freshmen and sophmores this year.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33939 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:16 am to
There's a gulf in ability between the teams Richt had and the ones Kirby have put together.

2001 Georgia 11.51 SRS
2002 Georgia 18.18 SRS
2003 Georgia 17.46 SRS

2016 Georgia 3.64 SRS
2017 Georgia 22.47 SRS
2018 Georgia 22.64 SRS

The last two Georgia teams have had a higher SRS than numerous national championship teams such as 1998 Tennessee, 2000 Oklahoma, 2002 Ohio State, 2003 LSU, 2006 Florida, 2007 LSU, 2010 Auburn, 2014 Ohio State, and 2016 Clemson. Kirby's basically put together teams that would have won national championships in a lot of years. They've just fallen short.

Richt has NEVER put together a national championship caliber team. His best team in terms of SRS was his 2014 Georgia team that had three losses. They definitely weren't national championship caliber. His second best team was 2002 Georgia. They had a SRS of 18.18. That SRS is the second lowest SRS by a national champion since 1984. Only 2002 Ohio State had a lower SRS. Even the 2007 LSU team with two losses had a higher SRS than 2002 UGA. And before people bring up back up 2012 UGA, that team wasn't that great. They had a seven point win against a 5-7 Tennessee team that was historically bad defensively, a 5 point win against a 2-10 Kentucky, and was blown out by South Carolina. And the only reason why the SEC Championship was so close was due to Nussmeier having his head up his arse and refusing to run the ball down UGA's throat until they got down. Bama ran for 350 yards and almost 7 YPC against them. They dominated that game but an inexplicable special teams TD and terrible playcalling kept UGA in the game.
Posted by Bulldawg2010
Rome
Member since Oct 2013
1605 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:18 am to
Lol of course there is a point.
Richt was fired bc of his last few seasons at Georgia, not his first three. There is no Georgia fan out there that will say Mark Richt wasn’t a good coach during his first 6/7 years in Athens. It was around 2010 when people started to get tired of always losing to top 10 ranked teams, not showing up in big games, losing to teams with less talent, etc.

Kirby also has a national championship appearance, while Richt couldn’t do it in 15 seasons.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:19 am to
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Who couldn't win the Big Game hence why he was fired. Make no mistake about it Georgia hired Kirby Smart to win a National Championship something Georgia hasn't done in forever. From the data we have so far Kirby suffers from the exact same problem(s) that the guy they fired did. There is very little to no difference between the two. Does this help you understand it better?



The fact is Richt continuously underachieved. Smart has overachieved in 2 out of the 3 years he's been at UGA. Before the year started everyone said UGA was propped up by a weak division and wouldn't come close to the playoffs after all their seniors left. Then smart takes his team of freshman and sophomores and puts them in a position to the make the playoffs and then the narrative changes to Smart having a stacked team and should've been better this year than last. Nick Saban's record his first 3 years of coaching: 9-2, 6-5-1, and 6-6. Nick Saban's first 3 years in the SEC: 8-4, 10-3, and 8-5. I get that its your schtick to shite post UGA because that's literally all you do, but it's pretty crazy to act like Smart is a bad coach who has done poorly at UGA.
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
11932 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:21 am to
Jake, I want you to post this at least six more times to go along with the six times you posted it on Saturday.

You need help.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:22 am to
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Jake, I want you to post this at least six more times to go along with the six times you posted it on Saturday.



Well you are going to have to wait until after the bowl game for that. A loss would be devastating for Kirby in this comparison.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38775 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:23 am to
Kirby talks like them baw
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:25 am to
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UGA was propped up by a weak division


This hasn't changed and is evidenced by Kirby's 4-5 record (with 3 blowout losses) against the West and his 15-3 record against the mediocre SEC East. Florida is starting to show some life again and the Jury is still out on Tennessee.

Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:27 am to
Saban was 33-8. Don’t fall for this morons trolling
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
11932 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:27 am to
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Well you are going to have to wait until after the bowl game for that. A loss would be devastating for Kirby in this comparison.


It is really odd that you are so preoccupied with a coach who is no better than Richt, especially when he does not even coach a rival.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:28 am to
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This hasn't changed and is evidenced by Kirby's 4-5 record (with 3 blowout losses) against the West and his 15-3 record against the mediocre SEC East. Florida is starting to show some life again and the Jury is still out on Tennessee.

False. If UGA was propped up by a weak division and weren't actually good then Bama would've slaughtered them. So either UGA was actually a good team regardless of playing in the East or Bama was just exposed by a "bad" team that only looked good because they played no one.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:29 am to
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Saban was 33-8. Don’t fall for this morons trolling


Well there is this little thing about Coach Saban winning an SEC and National Championship in year 3. Kirby failed at that.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:31 am to
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False.


What part about Kirby being 4-5 (with 3 blowout losses) against the SEC West do you not understand and how that is compared to his record against the SEC East and what the results tell us? Did you fail Statistics in High School?
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:31 am to
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Well there is this little thing about Coach Saban winning an SEC and National Championship in year 3. Kirby failed at that.


lol no he didn't. I literally just posted Nick Saban's first 3 years as a coach and first 3 years in the SEC.
Posted by DaronTexas
Screwston Tx . R.I.P DJ SCREW
Member since Apr 2016
1461 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:32 am to
Kirby is a better recruiter.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:32 am to
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It is really odd that you are so preoccupied with a coach who is no better than Richt, especially when he does not even coach a rival.


You asked and I gave an answer. We won't revisit this until after the Bowl Game. Math is fun. Right?
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:33 am to
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Kirby is a better recruiter.


I haven't seen anyone post otherwise.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
3279 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:33 am to
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Looks like Richt did a better job coaching his lower ranked recruits than Kirby is doing coaching his higher ranked recruits.


And is Kirby a "good man" like Richt is?
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:34 am to
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What part about Kirby being 4-5 (with 3 blowout losses) against the SEC West do you not understand and how that is compared to his record against the SEC East and what the results tell us? Did you fail Statistics in High School?

God you are slow. I'll try this again. Was UGA actually good despite playing in the East or was Bama just exposed by a bad UGA team? It's one or the other. If Bama just went to the wire with a team that you think is bad then you should be worried about playing teams you think are better than UGA.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:34 am to
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lol no he didn't.


Nick Saban was 33-8 in his first 3 seasons at Alabama and he won an SEC and National Championship in year 3. Kirby failed at that.
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