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re: Mark Richt First 3 Seasons vs Kirby Smart First 3 Seasons

Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:37 am to
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:37 am to
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Nick Saban was 33-8 in his first 3 seasons at Alabama and he won an SEC and National Championship in year 3. Kirby failed at that.

So you're comparing Nick Saban's 14th year as a headcoach to Smart's 3rd? It took Saban 10 years to win his first NC.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:38 am to
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If Bama just went to the wire with a team that you think is bad then you should be worried about playing teams you think are better than UGA.


You seem to be having a hard time understanding this. Nowhere have I said Georgia is a "bad" team. I said that there is very little to no difference between Richt and Kirby (the numbers back this up) and I said Georgia has very little resistance and a far easier path in the SEC East than any team in the West has. Do you understand this?
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:40 am to
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ou seem to be having a hard time understanding this. Nowhere have I said Georgia is a "bad" team. I said that there is very little to no difference between Richt and Kirby (the numbers back this up) and I said Georgia has very little resistance and a far easier path in the SEC East than any team in the West has. Do you understand this?

You realize that if you say a team is propped up by a bad division that you are saying they aren't a good team, right? If a team is good, they aren't being propped up by a bad division because they are good. So it looks like you don't understand what being "propped up" is.
Posted by athens-ga
athens, ga
Member since Jun 2013
1298 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:41 am to
I realize this is a troll thread but judging Kirby by the greatest coach of all time after only three years is unfair. By all standards Kirby has been a huge success (except for fake plays lol). Also, what were Saban's first three years as a head coach, not at Alabama as an old master, but at his first school?

Put it another way, please advise of a better coach we could hire?
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 9:42 am
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:41 am to
Richt never called a fake punt with his QB in the backfield.
Posted by MGDawg
Member since Nov 2018
406 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:42 am to
If you like the mother fricker so much hire him. I’m sure he will be available this time next year.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:44 am to
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Richt never called a fake punt with his QB in the backfield.

Richt also had mostly the same roster Kirby did and never coached them to the playoffs or championship. Seeing how Richt is doing in Miami right now should be all the proof you need. If you go to the Miami board you don't have to scroll very far to see the "Official Fire Mark Richt" thread.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 9:47 am
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:46 am to
True, Kirby has 3 times the talent... with the same results
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:47 am to
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True, Kirby has 3 times the talent...




No he doesn't. He inherited less talent and is building it up.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42560 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:47 am to
Meh. I love ripping UGA for their lack of success, but Richt was just a good as Saban during the same period. Not everyone can get a free pass every year like Bama. UGA 07 was better than LSU who won the title. 12 UGA was a title worthy team. Early 00 UGA teams were legit. Not sure why MR gets so much disrespect here.

ETA:

And in the life cycle of a coach, MR is just now hitting his prime years.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 10:01 am
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:48 am to
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If you like the mother fricker so much hire him.


No thanks I think we will keep the Coach we have.

The issue isn't that Richt shouldn't have been fired. The issue is despite the claims of Georgia fans he was replaced with what is essentially his clone.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24264 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:49 am to
Outside of 2012 he never competed with Alabama like Kirby has though. This Georgia team is far tougher than anything Richt ever fielded IMO.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:50 am to
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No thanks I think we will keep the Coach we have.

The issue isn't that Richt shouldn't have been fired. The issue is despite the claims of Georgia fans he was replaced with what is essentially his clone.



Except for the fact that Kirby has recruited better and took a Richt team to a place Richt never did in 15 years in his second year.
Posted by UnderDog68
Thomasville, Ga.
Member since Sep 2017
2540 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:50 am to
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Did Richt ever have a 4th and dumb? I do not remember it.


Richt had so many bonehead calls, I don't even know where to begin....but the one that stands out the most to me was his decision to squib kick vs. GT in 2014.

That squib kick allowed them great field position, they then broke off a long run, got more help when Richt called a time out after they had none left, stopped the clock when it would have run out, and allowed GT to kick a 50-plus yard FG for OT....which UGA promptly lost because Hutson Mason threw a game-ending pick on UGA's possession.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:50 am to
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The issue isn't that Richt shouldn't have been fired. The issue is despite the claims of Georgia fans he was replaced with what is essentially his clone.




You're not even a good troll anymore Jake. Although, I'm not sure you ever were any good
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24264 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:52 am to
There is no better coach for Georgia but taking over at a school like Georgia and comparing that to the teams Saban was coaching when he started is not exactly on equal footing. Even when he went to LSU they were coming off of the worst decade of football they had ever had in the modern CFB era.
Posted by MGDawg
Member since Nov 2018
406 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:52 am to
So with your logic if you do a decent job your first 3 years then go on a steady decline you should keep your job forever. Good thing you don’t do the hiring and firing for Bama because you would still have Shula
Posted by thomass
Member since Jan 2014
3526 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:53 am to
Kirby has been doing much better than decent. He has the 2nd best progrum in the country
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:54 am to
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There is no better coach for Georgia but taking over at a school like Georgia and comparing that to the teams Saban was coaching when he started is not exactly on equal footing. Even when he went to LSU they were coming off of the worst decade of football they had ever had in the modern CFB era.



lol it's more relevant than comparing Smart's third year as a head coach to Saban's 24th.
Posted by MGDawg
Member since Nov 2018
406 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:55 am to
Yeah I was talking about Richt not Kirby
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