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re: LSU Notice of Allegations Features Violations by Odell Beckham Jr., Football Program

Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:46 pm to
“LSU was accused of major violations by the NCAA, including lack of institutional control and failure to monitor the conduct of its men’s basketball and football programs over an eight-year period, according to a copy of the notice of allegations sent to the university.”
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28288 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:47 pm to
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Try Ole Miss, I think they had three going at once—football, women’s basketball and track and field.



Thanks. That's crazy.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22718 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 2:01 pm to
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What has the NCAA done about it yet? Seriously sounds like LSU is doing everything.


That is the next step and it likely won't take very long to find out since LSU is not allowed to appeal.

Considering the number of level 1 violations allong with the LOIC, they'll likely be among the most severe we've seen in awhile. Possibly ever outside SMU.

Not in death penalty range since you'd need to keep doing that even after this. Will be interesting to see how the penalties spread out between the sports.

I don't think LSU fans are really grasping the level of trouble they are in.
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
2177 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 2:16 pm to
NCAA probably has info on how much they paid Burrow. Kiss that natty goodbye.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
1909 posts
Posted on 3/13/22 at 2:39 pm to
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NCAA probably has info on how much they paid Burrow.


If they had anything on paying Joe Burrow, it would be in the NOA. It isn't.

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Kiss that natty goodbye.


Not going to happen. The only allegation associated with the 2019 team is payments after it was over. Sure, two minutes after it was over, but after is after.

Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21007 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:16 am to
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That is the next step and it likely won't take very long to find out since LSU is not allowed to appeal.

Considering the number of level 1 violations allong with the LOIC, they'll likely be among the most severe we've seen in awhile. Possibly ever outside SMU.

Not in death penalty range since you'd need to keep doing that even after this. Will be interesting to see how the penalties spread out between the sports.

I don't think LSU fans are really grasping the level of trouble they are in.


Uh, fans are not in any trouble. LSU is not in trouble. There will be no death penalty.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10539 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:22 am to
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Uh, fans are not in any trouble


True


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LSU is not in trouble.



Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2762 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:44 am to
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Uh, fans are not in any trouble. LSU is not in trouble. There will be no death penalty.

Can you tell me of any programs that received an NOA with Level 1 violations that did not get in trouble? Just one?
Posted by Buster83
Member since Aug 2021
3467 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:55 am to
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“LSU was accused of major violations by the NCAA, including lack of institutional control and failure to monitor the conduct of its men’s basketball and football programs over an eight-year period, according to a copy of the notice of allegations sent to the university.”


Could LOLSU be forced to forfeit all of its wins in football and basketball for the past eight years? Has the NCAA ever done something that drastic?
Posted by 167back
Dos Gris
Member since Jun 2012
4701 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:09 am to
Has there been any mention of Vadal having any firsthand knowledge of what his parents were involved in? That was cam and auburn's out a few years back.

Why no mention of Rohan's mother having the same arrangement as the Alexander's? That's right it was years after Rohan left LSU. It doesn't fit their narrative. Point being neither situation involved recruiting. It was strictly a money laundering scheme that got the man prison time.

As for OBJ. All the money was collected and donated to charities.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2762 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:59 am to
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Has there been any mention of Vadal having any firsthand knowledge of what his parents were involved in


Pretty sure the NCAA rules show no distinction between the player or their family receiving money. Seems like a fairly irrelevant distinction.

And I don't think they ever had concrete evidence of Cam's dad actually getting cash. There was no FBI investigation that turned up evidence that the NCAA could use against Auburn or Cam.

And I am not sure you will convince too many people that using the Alexanders had nothing to do with his playing football at LSU. Funes's operation just coincidentally found 2 families of players that happened to play at LSU when they were looking for people to help them launder money?

I read this narrative on the and the valley shook website. I guess it will convince LSU fans but not many others.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 12:10 pm
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21007 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:01 pm to
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Can you tell me of any programs that received an NOA with Level 1 violations that did not get in trouble? Just one?



Level 1 violation - Loss of scholarships, maybe a meaningless bowl game suspensions for a couple of years. One of which LSU self imposed in 2020 (ncaa typically accepts that and counts it).

Loss of scholarships means NOTHING. So you just have walk-ons and pay them via NIL, you will still get your players; not like the old days.

LSU loses bowl game revenue for a few years, does not matter, they will still get paid from the SEC TV contracts.

The only way LSU is hurt if they have a legitimate national championship contender and is not allowed in the basketball (no likely historically) or football (maybe, but LSU has a couple of years before that is a risk) tourney.

NIL has change the game, you are all thinking in the old paradigm.

So how is LSU in trouble?
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 12:04 pm
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30312 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:04 pm to
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And all the LSU fans said it was bullshite,


You’re so damn dumb
Obsessed, too.
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:06 pm to
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Level 1 violation - Loss of scholarships, maybe a meaningless bowl game suspensions for a couple of years. One of which LSU self imposed in 2020 (ncaa typically accepts that and counts it). Loss of scholarships means NOTHING. So you just have walk-ons and pay them via NIL, you will still get your players; not like the old days. LSU loses bowl game revenue for a few years, does not matter, they will still get paid from the SEC TV contracts. The only way LSU is hurt if they have a legitimate national championship contender and is not allowed in the basketball (no likely historically) or football (maybe, but LSU has a couple of years before that is a risk) tourney. NIL has change the game, you are all thinking in the old paradigm. So how is LSU in trouble?


This is the denial stage
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:08 pm to
Dirty cheaters.

I feel soiled by just reading about their filth.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 12:15 pm
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3363 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:11 pm to
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Can you tell me of any programs that received an NOA with Level 1 violations that did not get in trouble? Just one?


North Carolina?

Didn't they receive an NOA with level 1 violations? I could be wrong, but I don't recall any penalties, significant or otherwise.

Also, NC State, no postseason ban and one-year show cause for former head coach Mark Gottfried.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 12:53 pm
Posted by TiderinVa
Hampton, Virginia
Member since May 2018
850 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:13 pm to
Yeah its most corrupt thing ive read since the smu case
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21007 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:21 pm to
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This is the denial stage


Oh no, my LSU Tiger's get the death penalty for three years; life goes on... Next...
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52750 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:27 pm to
I could see them having to vacate any games that Vadal participated in as well, wouldn't shock me.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21007 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:35 pm to
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I could see them having to vacate any games that Vadal participated in as well, wouldn't shock me.


So, last remnants of Les Miles I guess..
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