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re: Looks like changes are coming next year to CFP format, including seeding teams correctly
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:03 pm to JetDawg
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:03 pm to JetDawg
"Would require unanimous approval"
This is BS. The SEC and B10 could tell the other conferences to frick off and have their own championship if they dont wanna get on board.
This is BS. The SEC and B10 could tell the other conferences to frick off and have their own championship if they dont wanna get on board.
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:15 pm to UltimaParadox
Hell, let’s just move it to a 66 team playoff.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:23 pm to UltimaParadox
quote:What exactly would 16 teams fix? 12 is already 4 too many unless they're hellbent on including even more teams that have no business being in the playoffs.
UltimaParadox
16 team in 2026 is a lock, so it's going to change every year it seems
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:33 pm to 49 to nada
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What exactly would 16 teams fix? 12 is already 4 too many unless they're hellbent on including even more teams that have no business being in the playoffs.
It helps fix the SOS issue when comparing ACC #2 and SEC #4. If you think about it, there wasn’t a whole lot separating the #1 SEC team (and #2 CFP team) and the #4-6 SEC team. 2 of the 3 teams beat the #1 team, and had the refs not helped #1 SEC team in their rivalry game they would have had the exact same record going into the SECCG with 3 losses.
There is a lot less separation of the top 6 SEC teams in this new world, and small things like home vs. away or conference schedules can make the difference between ending up #2 vs. #6. Going to 16 ensures enough good SEC teams get in and can weed out the pretenders in the first 2 rounds.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:43 pm to Opry
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Biggest improvement they could make is incorporating BCS style computer rankings.
They'll never do that because they'd relinquish some power if they do and they want the power. With power comes great profit.
Should just be the top 12 BCS teams get into the playoff with the top 4 getting byes.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:57 pm to TDsngumbo
The word is 14 teams with 1 and 2 getting byes. They will not go with less games.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:02 pm to RebelTheBear
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Those round one CFP games were abysmally bad.
Because 12 teams were too much. First round showed us 8 teams is the perfect number.
SMU, Tennessee, Clemson, and Indiana did not belong in the playoffs.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:04 pm to XenScott
Biggest problem with the playoffs so far........is the media has to deal with SMU / Indiana / Boise / and Ariz St instead of Bama / Michigan or any other blue bloods.
No one is complaining if Michigan with the same record lost to ND or Bama lost to Penn St.
They didnt get their favorites. SMU and ASU and Ind deserved to go..........screw the blue bloods.
No one is complaining if Michigan with the same record lost to ND or Bama lost to Penn St.
They didnt get their favorites. SMU and ASU and Ind deserved to go..........screw the blue bloods.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:11 pm to lsudirtbag
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No one is complaining if Michigan with the same record lost to ND or Bama lost to Penn St. They didnt get their favorites. SMU and ASU and Ind deserved to go..........screw the blue bloods.
Interesting take. The 2 teams you said didn’t make it both have wins over teams still playing in the CFP. While the 3 teams you said “deserved to go” have combined wins over…checks notes…no one, not a single decent team of consequence amidst all three resumes.
You have a really interesting way of defining “deserved to go.” Talk about the games not mattering at all, what’s the point of playing if you can get into the CFP without beating even one decent team?
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:28 pm to JetDawg
Just go to 8 teams, no byes. Top 5 conference champs and 3 at large.
No byes and top 4 get home games. Problem solved.
No byes and top 4 get home games. Problem solved.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:36 pm to IT_Dawg
quote:It was the only way to get 2 ACC teams in.
Clemson beat SMU and should’ve jumped them in the rankings anyway. Not sure why they had SMU ahead of Clemson
If Clemson is 12 and SMU 13 Bama is playing Penn State instead in the 1st round.
I think pretty much everyone knew no ACC team was going to have a shot, but by putting two in and both got dragged it may have provided enough impetus to get changes made before 2026.
The seeding this year was just awful, and if Boise State and ASU get dragged it will just ice the cake.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:39 pm to JetDawg
The Seeding is beyond retarded.
They have Ohio State & Oregon, probably the 2 best teams in the country, playing each other in the Quarterfinals while Boise & Arizona State got byes.
They have Ohio State & Oregon, probably the 2 best teams in the country, playing each other in the Quarterfinals while Boise & Arizona State got byes.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:42 pm to JetDawg
The shite conferences would not agree with this, and it has to be a unanimous agreement to alter it for 2025.
2026 and beyond is another story.
2026 and beyond is another story.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:48 pm to Geauxgurt
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Just go to 8 teams, no byes. Top 5 conference champs and 3 at large. No byes and top 4 get home games. Problem solved.
Only works if you heavily weight SOS for the 3 at large. I already posted about the minuscule difference between the #1 SEC team and #4-6 SEC (who they ranked 12-14 despite 2 of them having wins over the #1 SEC).
In the old world, 8 would have been enough. In the new parity world of CFB, not sure 8 is enough of a differentiator. The argument between OSU, Tenn, PSU, Indiana, etc. was minimal given they all made it. Change the cut line to 8 and there will be significant arguments between 7-10 and it won’t be clear who should be in.
4 SEC teams should be minimum if we are at 12 or higher, and I’d love to see #3 SEC play #6 SEC and #4 SEC play #5 SEC during championship game weekend to see who gets the last 2 SEC spots. Gives top 6 SEC teams a shot at the 4 SEC CFP births, and gives us more fun games.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:53 pm to 49 to nada
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12 is already 4 too many
Most seasons, 4 was too many. Years like 2023 were the outlier, not the norm.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:56 pm to RebelTheBear
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but giving teams like Arizona State and Boise State a bye over teams who lost to 4-8 football teams makes no Mississippi fan happy
Fixed
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:00 pm to DawgsLife
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Go back to the BCS, but incorporate a 4 or 6 team playoff. 6 team playoff and the #1 and #2 ranked teams get a bye to the semis.
Yes
Been saying this for years
Everybody acted like 6 teams wasn’t even an option
They went straight to 8 or 12
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:12 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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Interesting take. The 2 teams you said didn’t make it both have wins over teams still playing in the CFP.
But none of them lost to Vandy or Oklahoma
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:22 pm to JetDawg
Why don't they just quit pretending like any teams not from the SEC, B1G, ACC, or Big 12 have a chance? shite, even the latter two conferences I mentioned are long shots at best. Restrict the playoffs to just those four conferences and have a four-team mini playoff within each conference at the end of the year to determine conference champs, then send the four champs to a final playoff to determine the NC. Problem solved.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:31 pm to JetDawg
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seeding teams correctly
“Correctly” is a misnomer.
Right now, the conference championships are still relevant because of the bids and the potential bye. Obviously the bid is key outside of the big 2, but for the SEC and Big 10 the bye is the key.
If UGA and Texas both knew they were in the playoffs and would otherwise be top 4 seeds - then what exactly would the point of the SEC have been?
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