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re: Lane- on why he left-More 5 star recruits than in 6 yrs at other place

Posted on 7/23/26 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by Gator Fever
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 3:03 pm to
Kiffin was at Ole Miss though so you can't ding him too much for not having an SEC Championship. If he hasn't won a national championship or at least an SEC Championship by the end of the 2027 season with that NIL budget he will hear about it big time.
Posted by JYD
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 3:20 pm to
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Lane Kiffin has zero SEC titles as a head coach. Has there ever been a more overrated coach in SEC history?


There is all of 1 current SEC coach that has an SEC championship under his belt, so apparently there are a lot of overrated head coaches in the SEC.
Posted by Houag80
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 3:28 pm to
Aaaannnd.. .if he steps on his dick those couillons will send him packing quicker than Ogeron.
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 3:31 pm to
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Kiffin was at Ole Miss though so you can't ding him too much for not having an SEC Championship. If he hasn't won a national championship or at least an SEC Championship by the end of the 2027 season with that NIL budget he will hear about it big time.
Texas roster budget is arguably larger tha LSU's (in fact i think its the most expensive one in the country) and they have yet to win an SEC title much less a National Championship and Sark is in his 6th year

and for whatever reason people seem to be implying Kiffin is under more pressure to win fast than him
This post was edited on 7/23/26 at 3:41 pm
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 3:39 pm to
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Nick Saban himself told Lane and has reiterated it many times,


If he said it, he said it privately. He also left that job for something different after 5 years. it just wasn't enough to keep him there. he always looked back at lsu fondly, especially after they wisely rejected his offer to come back.

i think it was the girl he let slip away, but in reality, he was able to do much greater things at Bama.
Posted by Gen Patton
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 3:51 pm to
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i think it was the girl he let slip away, but in reality, he was able to do much greater things at Bama.


You say that and obviously the resumption of the 1960-70s Bama dynasty occurred but LSU’s first 3 seasons after Saban bolted

2005: 11-2, SEC West champ, top 5 national ranking
2006: 11-2, top 3 national ranking
2007: 12-2, SEC and national champ

All with Saban recruited players in starting roles

So you can claim he was able to “do much greater things at Bama” and obviously he forged his own dynasty there but LSU did all that with HIS recruits the first 3 years after he left.

I’m very confident in saying this but, if Saban stayed as LSU coach instead of trying the NFL, very likely LSU’s the dynasty of the 2010s not Alabama

I mean LSU won a natty and almost won another with freaking Les Miles as their head coach and won a natty with Coach O, you give Saban all that talent over a long period of time, you think he only wins 2 titles?

Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 3:54 pm to
I think Saban was a great coach prior to heading into the Dolphins

However, I do not think Saban becomes the best college coach of all time without leaving for the Dolphins. He needed to scartch that itch and no it was not for him in order to come back to the college game fully invested
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 3:57 pm to
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I’m very confident in saying this but, if Saban stayed as LSU coach instead of trying the NFL, very likely LSU’s the dynasty of the 2010s not Alabama



No one doubts that. I do think, however, that we were capable of giving him a greater ride to greater heights under the old ways. But, I have no question he would have dominated there.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:39 pm to
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I do think, however, that we were capable of giving him a greater ride to greater heights under the old ways.


Why?

What quantifiable resource could Alabama offer Saban in 2007 that LSU couldn't?
Posted by BearRebelShark
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:45 pm to
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lsu is the only school to have 3 different coaches win national championships since 2000. hell since 2003. I dont know if its happened in the sec before at all besides at lsu.

there is no other power 4 job in the state to compete with. its a national brand in the sec that puts out as much nfl talent as anyone.

these facts are indisputable. lsu is the only school that can claim all of these facts.
saban said its the best job in America and there is proof he said it.
im not sure why yall have such a problem admitting it


I cannot even begin to tell you how many times I have heard corn dogs repeat the same talking points over and over again. Its a new era (has been since 2020). None of the stuff you just mentioned matters if you aren't spending money *smartly*. We will see if he can win big there but as of today LSU has been overall average in this new era. Maybe that will change, maybe it won't.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:48 pm to
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It truly is the best head coaching job in America #JustDifferent


Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:49 pm to
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3 different coaches win national championships


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I dont know if its happened in the sec before at all besides at lsu.


Bama says hello
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
76012 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:50 pm to
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I cannot even begin to tell you how many times I have heard corn dogs repeat the same talking points over and over again. Its a new era (has been since 2020). None of the stuff you just mentioned matters if you aren't spending money *smartly*. We will see if he can win big there but as of today LSU has been overall average in this new era. Maybe that will change, maybe it won't.


I don't think things have changed as much as some want to believe they have. In this "new era", Ole Miss is having one of it's best stretches ever, but they're only .500 vs "average" LSU.
Posted by PurpleSingularity
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:51 pm to
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Freeze and Coach O signed plenty of 5 stars at Ole Miss.


That’s awesome….can you list them all please?
Posted by BearRebelShark
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:51 pm to
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I don't think things have changed as much as some want to believe they have.


Dude. You cannot be serious.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
76012 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:52 pm to
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Dude. You cannot be serious.


I am, prove me wrong.


Posted by BearRebelShark
Member since Jun 2019
442 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:52 pm to
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Ole Miss is having one of it's best stretches ever, but they're only .500 vs "average" LSU


Also, you can thank your current head coach for that stat
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
76012 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:53 pm to
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Also, you can thank your current head coach for that stat


No doubt. But it's still very telling that Ole Miss is having one of its best runs ever yet is still .500 vs LSU.
Posted by PurpleSingularity
Member since Dec 2017
2999 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:56 pm to
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Coach O has admitted numerous times he was a different coach at LSU than Ole Miss. That he was too involved and too hands on and too intense on the players when he was here.




Posted by PurpleSingularity
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 5:03 pm to
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LSU has been overall average in this new era. Maybe that will change, maybe it won't.


Not that I’m super proud, but during this “average era” for LSU, they played in an SEC championship game and had a Heisman Trophy winner….neither of which Ole Miss can claim
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