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re: Kylin Hill receives key to Columbus, MS

Posted on 7/24/20 at 6:52 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 6:52 pm to
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This is why the rest of the country and world looks at you confederate sympathizers as a joke. Y’all are really in here saying they didn’t fight for the right to keep slavery going, which was key to the southern economy. You can’t be this dumb to say otherwise.

How does it feel to cheer for black guys every Saturday and Sunday before you have to go back to your klan meetings during the weekdays?






Calling me a "Klansman" or "Confederate sympathizer" doesn't make your argument fact.

Dig your head out of the sand and do some research.

Stop making yourself look like a complete and utter fool.
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 7:00 pm
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:13 pm to
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Sir, we're all aware from your comments that you know very little about the Civil War and the motivations behind it.


Just because you don’t like the truth doesn’t make it less true.
The idea that the war was primarily fought for “states rights” was nothing more than propaganda to keep morale up and preserve political order in the post war era.
There’s no need to keep repeating that nonsense in 2020.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:15 pm to
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Calling me a "Klansman" or "Confederate sympathizer" doesn't make your argument fact.


It’s how most of the world views people like you. “Klansman” is taking it a bit too far, but you spout the same nonsense that confederate sympathizers have spouted since the reconstruction era. If the shoe fits....
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:16 pm to
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Just because you don’t like the truth doesn’t make it less true.


I know leftists are big on "their truth", sorry "your truth" isn't "the truth."

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The idea that the war was primarily fought for “states rights” was nothing more than propaganda to keep morale up and preserve political order in the post war era.


I encourage you to do some reading and research on the cause of the Civil War.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:20 pm to
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but you spout the same nonsense that confederate sympathizers have spouted since the reconstruction era. 


If you actually had read what I've said, you'd notice that I called those who say the Civil War was just fought about "states' rights" ignorant.

Guess I'm expecting too much from someone who cant even correctly spell "wart."
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:32 pm to
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I encourage you to do some reading and research on the cause of the Civil War.


You act like it is some mysterious history that only a few people know. We all are taught US history in Middle and High school. We all probably have watched documentaries.

There have been landmark political moments, such as supreme court cases, throughout the course of history that have had significant impact on the powers of the states vs the federal government.

Only one such challenge to states’ powers led to a civil war.
The increasing percentage of the northern population that were beginning to support abolition was also of concern to the south, which had a bigger economic reliance on slavery.

The war was a desperate attempt by wealthy southerners to salvage their morally corrupt society.

They utilized propaganda like “state’s rights”, “war of northern aggression”, and used religion and racism to convince their population to take up arms and fight on their behalf.

There’s a reason the north won.
There’s a reason the south’s morale fell apart in the end.
There’s a reason most of the country’s great generals chose the winning side.

The attempt at secession was always an attempt out of desperation, and, like most desperate attempts, it failed.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:49 pm to
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You act like it is some mysterious history that only a few people know. We all are taught US history in Middle and High school. We all probably have watched documentaries.



The history is readily available for those who choose to read and research, yet some like you remain willfully ignorant and state that the war was simply fought to "preserve Southern slavery."

Anyone who has done historical research can point to the massive inadequacies of middle and high school history classes, basing your viewpoint on that is just irresponsible.

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There’s a reason the north won.


Several actually, including but not limited to a smaller population base, limited manufacturing capacity, and bad infrastructure.

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There’s a reason the south’s morale fell apart in the end.


Several but not limited to them starving, being outgunned, and outmanned.

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There’s a reason most of the country’s great generals chose the winning side.


Um they didnt.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21320 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 2:23 am to
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PlateJohnsonIII


Is this what MSU is reduced to for smack talk?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 9:47 am to
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Dang . You are old school. Most in here wouldn’t remember the SouthernAire, Club, High Hat, 45 Club, etc

Born and raised here in Columbus . It has definitely changed
You could drink at 18 yrs. old in Miss., but you had to be 21 in Alabama, so Tuscaloosa was just a hop, skip and a jump!
I had more fights at that place than Rocky Marciano did at Madison Square Garden...had a pool stick broken over my head, a shotgun pulled on me outside and a guy (who had just absorbed an arse whipping) try to run me down in the parking lot...just to name a few times.
Posted by agswin
The Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
4341 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 9:56 am to
States Rights had nothing to do with that horrible war? Perhaps more study will help you?
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15934 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 10:34 am to
Wasn’t just his way, loser.

What does changing a flag change? Mississippi black females going to stop murdering their children? Young black males going to stop murdering their peers? With changing the flag going to cause a cultural epiphany?
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 11:36 am to
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They utilized propaganda like “state’s rights”

Wasn’t propaganda.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 11:45 am to
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States Rights had nothing to do with that horrible war?


I never said it had nothing to do with the war.
The war was over the southern states' "rights" to legally preserve the institution of slavery.

That's why I say the issue of "states' rights" is/was propaganda. The southern states had to make a whole new government and constitution to make that legally work. I.e. they never really had that "right" under the U.S. constitution.

Once the realization was made that black men and women should be protected by the same high laws as everyone else ("We hold these truths to be self-evident..."), the legality of slavery was given an expiration date in the US, and there was not a damn thing states would be able to legally do about it.

The idea that the civil war was over some political disagreement is nothing more than confederate sympathizer propaganda that came out of the reconstruction era. Slavery was against the very fabric of what America stood for, and it took far too long for people to realize that. However, once that realization was starting to take hold in the country, political leaders in the south had no choice but to execute a desperate exit plan.

Confederate leaders were not and should not be recognized as anything but former enemies of America.
Posted by SCDawg95
Fayetteville ,NC
Member since Oct 2019
5653 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 11:48 am to
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The flag was racist. You got a problem with racist flags and statues being taken down, midwesterner?
melt snowflake melt
Posted by scionofadrunk
Williamson County, TN
Member since Mar 2020
1961 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 11:49 am to
Filled with trash this thread is.

Into exile it must go.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 11:59 am to
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Wasn’t propaganda.


It was, and morons like you still gobble it up.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 12:51 pm to
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I never said it had nothing to do with the war.
The war was over the southern states' "rights" to legally preserve the institution of slavery.



What a simpleton.

Why fight a war over an issue that Lincoln vowed not to interfere with, an issue that he didnt feel like it was his right to interfere with?

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Once the realization was made that black men and women should be protected by the same high laws as everyone else ("We hold these truths to be self-evident..."), the legality of slavery was given an expiration date in the US, and there was not a damn thing states would be able to legally do about it.



Weird how slavery was still legal throughout the United States even after the Emancipation Proclamation.

The Emancipation Proclamation only applied to about 3.5 million of the 4 million slaves in America.

Your elementary understanding of the Civil War is laughable at best, please read some books.



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The idea that the civil war was over some political disagreement is nothing more than confederate sympathizer propaganda that came out of the reconstruction era.


It actually was over money and power, as most wars are.

Southern slavery was barely an issue at all, slavery in new states and territories was the biggest issue regarding "states' rights" as well as tariffs and taxation without representation, among others.

You've said you could produce quotes from Confederate leaders proving that "preserving Southern slavery" was the reason the war was fought yet you've failed to do so.

Sad.


Posted by TigerScorpion
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2018
579 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:02 pm to


He can't read well enough to get past childrens picture books. This is where he got his info.
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:43 pm to
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It was, and morons like you still gobble it up

Stick to football which you know little about, and stay away from history which you know nothing about.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 7:25 pm to
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Lincoln vowed not to interfere with


Presidents lie. Always have, always will.

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Weird how slavery was still legal throughout the United States even after the Emancipation Proclamation.



The end was coming.

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The Emancipation Proclamation only applied to about 3.5 million of the 4 million slaves in America.


"Only applied to most of them"

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Southern slavery was barely an issue at all,



You have got to either be trolling or an avid reader of some sort of "alternative facts" type website to get to this type of conclusion.
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