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re: Kirby and Georgia letting Fields and Eason walk
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:03 pm to auburnnyc94
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:03 pm to auburnnyc94
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I think it's more of deep seated offensive philosophical flaws than it is the QB they chose.
I agree
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:06 pm to tjv305
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Georgia has the worst starting QB of the teams with playoff contenders.
This season.
That wasnt the case last season or the year before. Fromm was one of the top 5 QBs nationally in 2018. And he was the 2nd best QB in the playoff in 2017 behind Mayfield.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:08 pm to sabes que
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I know it has been talked about but Georgia and Kirby Smart don’t get enough blame for this.
You don't hang out with Georgia fans do you?
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:09 pm to Leto II
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Fields left because he didn't want to wait.
Fields is doing a lot of the same things he would have been doing at UGA. Even the RPOs are somewhat similar. People act like OSU is an exotic spread where they throw the ball 40-50 times again. They're not at all. In fact, they very much a running football team averaging over 270 yards a game with a great tailback. That sounds a lot like UGA.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:10 pm to tissle
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You don't hang out with Georgia fans do you?
He wasn't interested in a legitimate discussion. He was interested in trolling, which is what 90% of the threads on the Rant are.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:14 pm to sabes que
OK, Eason was pretty bad in 2016 and started vs App St worse. His conversation is completely different
I love how in every single one of these threads, no one seems to mention that Fields was a freshman and perhaps didn't play at practice or in the game as well as he did this year at OSU.
You're not comparing Fields 2019 vs Fromm 2019, you're comparing Fields 2018 to Fromm 2018. Hindsight is 2020 and I'm sure Kirby could do things a little different, but lol at CKS "let him walk". Jake Fromm was coming off a career game against Bama in the 2018 SECCG. Smart wasn't about to just hand him the job.
I love how in every single one of these threads, no one seems to mention that Fields was a freshman and perhaps didn't play at practice or in the game as well as he did this year at OSU.
You're not comparing Fields 2019 vs Fromm 2019, you're comparing Fields 2018 to Fromm 2018. Hindsight is 2020 and I'm sure Kirby could do things a little different, but lol at CKS "let him walk". Jake Fromm was coming off a career game against Bama in the 2018 SECCG. Smart wasn't about to just hand him the job.
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:17 pm to sabes que
Fromm >> Eason
But Fields >>>>>>> Fromm
But Fields >>>>>>> Fromm
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:50 pm to sabes que
I find it amazing that Fields couldn’t make it a UGA, then transfers and within a 7 to 8 month span all of sudden develops into a Heisman candidate looking exponentially better than Fromm.
You can’t tell me that’s mostly scheme. I watched the spring game, his decision making, tight spiral throws and running ability looked fine to me. His passes were better than Fromms.
You can’t tell me that’s mostly scheme. I watched the spring game, his decision making, tight spiral throws and running ability looked fine to me. His passes were better than Fromms.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:51 pm to sabes que
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But it wasn’t hindsight for Kirby Smart.. he saw them every day at practice? He didn’t have the eye to see Fields >>>> Fromm?
Were you in practice? How do you know Fields was better than Fromm? I saw Fields play his freshman year, and he did nothing to justify taking the starting job from Fromm.
You can argue that perhaps Kirby should have changed the offense to fit Fields style of play, but that's a big gamble, especially when you've already got a QB that just led you to the national championship.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:51 pm to HTDawg
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Fields is doing a lot of the same things he would have been doing at UGA. Even the RPOs are somewhat similar. People act like OSU is an exotic spread where they throw the ball 40-50 times again. They're not at all. In fact, they very much a running football team averaging over 270 yards a game with a great tailback. That sounds a lot like UGA.
This is the second time I've read something like this recently and it's has a small nugget of truth but it's mostly a lie. Sure OSU is a run dominant team like UGA with similar RPOs. But, that's about where it ends. OSU uses their WRs and TEs to space the field which opens things up for their running game. This is why Fields gets the ball to the WRs and TEs on the edges a lot. OSU has very good WRs and TEs who can gash a defense on their own. So, defenses have to honor those pass catchers. And, then OSU has a really good offensive line who can then go to run blocking and open up holes for Dobbins and Fields.
I've been saying on the Rant and that is UGA's offense is so bad because they act like Swift is the only explosive player they have who can do anything with the ball in space. Your offensive play calling for your WRs and TEs is horrendous. That's why you have to overcome your coaching to win games against competent teams.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:54 pm to sabes que
Kirby didn’t have the balls to give fields a chance to make Fromm transfer.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:57 pm to DawgTired
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Were you in practice? How do you know Fields was better than Fromm? I saw Fields play his freshman year, and he did nothing to justify taking the starting job from Fromm.
You can argue that perhaps Kirby should have changed the offense to fit Fields style of play, but that's a big gamble, especially when you've already got a QB that just led you to the national championship.
Not true. It's not a big gamble when you're making around $7 million a season to not only set a tone for a football program but to also see what's coming down the pike. Kirby saw like we saw that spread concepts are here for the foreseeable future and football between competitive teams is about matchups so you have to have an offense that will utilize your play makers in space. All of your play makers. Also, if you have a QB who is a playmaker via his arm, legs, or both you have to utilize that.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:57 pm to atlanta917
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It was because Fromm led a team to a natty where as Fields hadn't taken a collegiate snap
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Fromm led the Team to within a 2nd & 26 yds of a Natty
ROFLMAO ??????
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:59 pm to DawgTired
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saw Fields play his freshman year, and he did nothing to justify taking the starting job from Fromm.
If so, that was by design as Kirby didn’t want you to see anything to create a controversy.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 2:00 pm to DawgTired
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You can argue that perhaps Kirby should have changed the offense to fit Fields style of play, but that's a big gamble, especially when you've already got a QB that just led you to the national championship
In 2017, Alex Smith led the Chiefs to a division title and a home playoff game. That offseason, he was traded to the Redskins because they looked at the rookie behind Smith and said he has too much God given ability to keep sitting him behind the game manager (Smith) that was currently starting.
That rookie was Patrick Mahomes. I think Kansas City made the right call.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 2:00 pm to djsdawg
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Kirby didn’t have the balls to give fields a chance to make Fromm transfer.
I agree. I remember Jalen Hurts' father was saying Saban and the OC were giving Tua plays that they weren't giving Jalen. But, that wasn't the case. Tua is just that good of a passer it looked that way. I saw Fields a few times last season and once conference play started it seemed to me Kirby and his OC went out of their way to make sure there was no QB controversy by giving Fields mostly plays that wouldn't show his passing ability and that wouldn't yield chunk yards.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 2:02 pm to Shaft Williams
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It's not a big gamble when you're making around $7 million a season to not only set a tone for a football program but to also see what's coming down the pike.
So, Kirby should have magically seen the future, told Jake Fromm, "Sorry,Jake. You just led us to the national championship game, but I'm changing our offense and sitting you so I can play this freshman who's never taken a snap."????
And that wouldn't have been a gamble.
Sheesh.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 2:02 pm to atlanta917
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why a coach would go with the QB that just led the team to a natty
The seniors, kicker, and Rowan led the team moreso than Fromm, who was mainly just along for the ride.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 2:03 pm to DawgTired
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Kirby should have magically seen the future, told Jake Fromm, "Sorry,Jake. You just led us to the national championship game, but I'm changing our offense and sitting you so I can play this freshman who's never taken a snap."????
He should have given fields a legit chance to win the job on the field. Then a change would have been easier to justify.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 2:04 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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Fromm led the Team to within a 2nd & 26 yds of a Natty
Exactly.
What was Tech doing that year? And the next? And the next?
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