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re: Kirby and Georgia letting Fields and Eason walk

Posted on 12/23/19 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 7:45 pm to
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They have still only lost a couple of games, doubt it would have been much different with either of the other two


It's hard to say. I hate speculating. A lot of people will speculate and then act like their speculations are fact. Truth is, you never know.

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Sometimes in the SEC, you have to go with the best today

Absolutely. You either go with the guy thta has done it before or you take a chance on a promising young player that might be good or might flop. The only reason this topic keeps being brought up is because of the year Fields had. If he had flopped nobody would have started a thread saying Smart made a great call.

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You could also ask why Bama let Jalen go, what did Tua win?
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 7:50 pm to
I can’t accept them because Fields threw for 40 tds and 1 int and Fromm was ? Mediocre?
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 7:54 pm to
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Chaney managed 6 more points against LSU with NFL receivers on the roster... Chaney isn’t the answer. UGA needs to update their offense. Chaney is only decent when he has 2 senior first round nfl talents at RB.


How silly. Big Jim has produced elite offenses at multiple locations with different types of personnel. He adapts to whatever pieces he has, which is a sign of a good coach imo. Chaney does not have some system that he will stubbornly hammer a square peg into a round hole like some OC’s.

Tennessee never had a running back on the level of Chubb or Michel during Chaney’s first tenure, yet VOLS offense was elite.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 7:55 pm to
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I can’t accept them because Fields threw for 40 tds and 1 int and Fromm was ? Mediocre?



Crap dude. And you seriously think he would have done that this past year with our offensive system, receivers, and OC calling the plays?



We have explained it to you and still you go....butbutbutbut....There is nothing new to say.

Now tell me this. Why aren't you bringing up Eason any more? because you know you were wrong.
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 7:56 pm
Posted by atlanta917
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 7:58 pm to
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How silly. Big Jim has produced elite offenses at multiple locations with different types of personnel. He adapts to whatever pieces he has, which is a sign of a good coach imo. Chaney does not have some system that he will stubbornly hammer a square peg into a round hole like some OC’s.

What offenses of his were elite besides 2017 UGA? He’s a good game planner that can’t make in game adjustments. Got blanked against bama twice in the second half and got wrecked against LSU. Chaney is solid, but not championship caliber.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:01 pm to
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How silly. Big Jim has produced elite offenses at multiple locations with different types of personnel. He adapts to whatever pieces he has, which is a sign of a good coach imo. Chaney does not have some system that he will stubbornly hammer a square peg into a round hole like some OC’s.


You didn't direct this at me, and I am the one that semi-agreed with you...but for some unknown reason he had a habit of hammering plays over and over again, even when they were failing and not adjusting. Look at our Florida game in which we had 7 plays (thanks to a penalty) to go into the endzone from the 1 or 2 yard line and he ran the ball straight up the middle every time but once. I have to admit it was maddening.

As I said, I liked him as a whole, but he had his moments.

Fwiw, I hope he does well at Tennessee, and I suspect a lot of Georgia fans would have preferred him this year over what we had.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:02 pm to
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Got blanked against bama twice in the second half

It's hard to place the blame there. Typically when a team goes into a slow down type offense it is at the direction of the head coach. But nobody is going to come out and point fingers...or at least I would hope not.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:04 pm to
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Tennessee never had a running back on the level of Chubb or Michel during Chaney’s first tenure, yet VOLS offense was elite.


Nope
Posted by atlanta917
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:05 pm to
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It's hard to place the blame there. Typically when a team goes into a slow down type offense it is at the direction of the head coach. But nobody is going to come out and point fingers...or at least I would hope not.

He just couldn’t cope with adjustments. Bama’s defense shut him down in the second half in both games. Same thing happened against lsu, just quicker. Some of his game plans were great. He just couldn’t make new ones in game. He’s better than Coley, but that’s not the answer. The answer is an updated offense that brings UGA’s offense up to speed with the rest of college football.
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 8:06 pm
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:06 pm to
Cool
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 8:07 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:07 pm to
Also, while he was at Purdue he was known to run a spread offense and throw the ball around......a lot. Why do you think he didn't do that at Georgia?
Kirby knew Chaney could run it. But that is not what kirby wants to run. maybe he changes this next year, maybe not.

I'm not sold that our offense needs a complete overhaul....more of a tuneup and make some tweaks to enhance the passing game. Teach the young WRs how to create separation and run proper routes.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by atlanta917
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:09 pm to
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Teach the young WRs how to create separation and run proper routes.

Some of the blame was with Fromm, some the WR’s, and some Coley. I just don’t think UGA’s offense is viable in college football any more. Bully ball is a thing of the past.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:12 pm to
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What offenses of his were elite besides 2017 UGA? He’s a good game planner that can’t make in game adjustments.


He produced great offenses at Purdue, did an amazing job in 2009 turning Jon Crompton from a headcase and joke of a QB to a serviceable SEC player. 2012 VOLS averaged 37 PPG, over 300 ypg passing and nearly 500 yards total offense and their best running back was Rajion Neal lmao.

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Got blanked against bama twice in the second half


Lol Georgia fans blaming Chaney for either of the Bama losses is just hilarious. His offenses produced double digit leads in both fixtures, while Georgia dominated TOP, yardage and every other measurable statistic.

If you want to blame anyone for those losses, I’d shift the blame to the muppet with the bowl cut imo.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:14 pm to
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2012 VOLS averaged 37 PPG, over 300 ypg passing and nearly 500 yards total offense and their best running back was Rajion Neal lmao.


It was an overrated offense.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:14 pm to
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Some of the blame was with Fromm, some the WR’s, and some Coley.

I agree 100%.

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I just don’t think UGA’s offense is viable in college football any more. Bully ball is a thing of the past.

You might be right. Who knows. We were very successful with it in 2017. However, football changes quickly. Very quickly these days.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:16 pm to
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Lol Georgia fans blaming Chaney for either of the Bama losses is just hilarious. His offenses produced double digit leads in both fixtures, while Georgia dominated TOP, yardage and every other measurable statistic.

His offenses were great for a half. Just not a full game, which is the issue. He’s terrible with in game adjustments. His best year came with UGA’s talent and even then couldn’t cope with in game adjustments. He’s not awful. He’s good, just not great.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:17 pm to
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It was an overrated offense.


It was statistically an elite offense anyway you slice it, which I was pointing out to atlanta917.

I do not know why you are responding to my posts like I have any interest in going back and forth with an irl borderline illiterate homer like djsdawg from the internet.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:21 pm to
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was statistically an elite offense anyway you slice it


19th nationally in yards per play, 4th in sec, and that was inflated for the vols. Not elite sliced like that.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:21 pm to
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You might be right. Who knows. We were very successful with it in 2017. However, football changes quickly. Very quickly these days.

It can be successful with multiple senior first round pick RB’s, elite o-line, and elite defense. That’s just a lot to ask for. Spread offenses have more snowball potential than prostyle.
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