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re: Josh Pate alluding to top football head coaches readying to retire in their primes…
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:07 am to CISO
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:07 am to CISO
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I love how everyone keeps lamenting the changes and predicting the demise of the sport, when the viewership numbers and revenue just keep going up, up, up!
I think viewership numbers will drop off once the novelty wears off in the next few years. College football is NASCARing itself.
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:10 am to catfish 62
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Hard to feel sorry for these coaches that make $7-10 million a year bc NIL/Portal makes their jobs harder. Cry me a river.
No one should feel sorry for them. However, no one should be surprised when a few of them decide they’ve made enough money and call it a career early.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:37 am to RollTide1987
I’d retire too if having to deal with constant bullshite AND sitting on tens of millions of dollars.
What’s the point?
Makes me think of the guy from Any Given Sunday. Got tired of coaching “NFL” personalities so he went back to coaching high school.
What’s the point?
Makes me think of the guy from Any Given Sunday. Got tired of coaching “NFL” personalities so he went back to coaching high school.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:40 am to RollTide1987
It is unfixable now that the cat is out of the bag and I get why athletes wanted it but college football doesn’t bring in near the revenue the NFL does. Even if you have “mega boosters” most of their wealth is tied up in investments or capital, they don’t have endless supplies of cash lying around and if the numbers being thrown around are even half true it can’t and won’t continue because revenue is shared by the conference for most schools
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:58 am to RollTide1987
I would bet that Kirby Smart is one of them. Its too much. The money is great but at some point money becomes less of a motivating factor.
I think some changes are cominig, however, which will indeed stop some of the foolishness. NIL is not as big a problem as the transfer portal. There are things that can be done about the transfer portal like simply not accepting academic credits...schools do it ALL the time. Anyone who has ever tried to transfer from one school to another most likely lost some credits. Given that the purpose is academics first and foremost for the school, not necessarily the AD, it would be very simple for universities to agree to do treat student athletes in the same manner you would an accounting major. Chances are the latter is going to have to repeat some classes which would keep the former eligible for the season.
I think some changes are cominig, however, which will indeed stop some of the foolishness. NIL is not as big a problem as the transfer portal. There are things that can be done about the transfer portal like simply not accepting academic credits...schools do it ALL the time. Anyone who has ever tried to transfer from one school to another most likely lost some credits. Given that the purpose is academics first and foremost for the school, not necessarily the AD, it would be very simple for universities to agree to do treat student athletes in the same manner you would an accounting major. Chances are the latter is going to have to repeat some classes which would keep the former eligible for the season.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:00 pm to Evolved Simian
quote:I think he's also referring to how covid changed things in 2020.
NIL didn't really start until 2022.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:16 pm to Tuscaloosa
damn, that is wild.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:20 pm to Chad4Bama
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Make transfers have to sit out 1 season and a lot of the problems go away
This right here is the first step.
It is bullshite they can transfer without penalty.
They need to enforce this yesterday.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:23 pm to CBandits82
If I am not mistaken, the courts ruled they cannot enforce it
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:26 pm to RollTide1987
He's been hinting since the offseason that Dabo could retire from this.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:26 pm to RollTide1987
I think the pro sports model is the future. General Managers will be as, or more, important than whoever is coaching the team.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:30 pm to OlDirtyTiger7
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I've largely retired as a fan. I no longer watch games that don't involve my team, and even then I'm not as emotionally invested as I used to be. The sport has gone completely off the rails.
This.
I gave up my season tickets, stopped following recruiting, got rid of ESPN, and just watch LSU when they're on broadcast TV (occasionally watch at a bar), otherwise I just listen on the radio while doing other shite. I still attend one game per year because I live so close to the stadium, but it's usually an OOC creampuff that I take my nephew to.
It's kind of to the point that college basketball has gotten to for me. I stopped caring about that in the 90s.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:32 pm to RollTide1987
Can't power trip on players anymore. What a shame.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:41 pm to Nomadic Bengal
Hard to exclaim victory if the sport has a drop in revenue and attendance, no one was being exploited and paying a player 100k to sit on the bench won’t continue
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:13 pm to CBandits82
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This right here is the first step.
It is bullshite they can transfer without penalty.
They need to enforce this yesterday.
Courts won't allow it...if the player is academically eligible they can play. As it should be. What should not happen is that the portal be open in periods when they will be academically eligible for the next season OR school presidents should not allow them any leeway in transfer credits that keep the eligible...because schools can do anything they damn well please....they can say a student Athlete has to have been enrolled at their university from day one of classes in order to be eligible to partake in athletics and any transfer student who would like to partake would have to have earned 50% or so of their credits from actually taking classes at the new university, not transfer credits from another. This would also protect the integrity of credits actually earned at the school in question. The universities have the answer, they simply choose not to do anything because it college athletics is a sham all the way around and they use revenue generating sports to pay for non-revenue sports to attract students and academic integrity can take a cold tater and wait.
They can also make them employees and cut out the portal and NIL alogether. As employees they could be required to sign a non-compete and they could be barred from using their connection to the university in commercial activities. Both are common terms in employee contracts. Again, the universities are too interested in maintaining the windfall that they receive from free labor and ain't willing to do anything.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:54 pm to RollTide1987
Call me a freak but I still watch college football for like 8+ hours every Saturday and will continue to do so.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:19 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Kirby Smart and Lincoln Riley are two of them
Doubt it. My guess would be:
Dabo Swinney
Brian Kelly--Not trying to troll LSU fans, but Kelly seems more of an old school kind of coach, and wouldn't like the new rules. I wouldn't necessarily rule out Kirby, though.
Riley thrives in NIL and the Transfer Portal. He gets a lot of talent that way.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 3:04 pm to DawgsLife
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Brian Kelly--Not trying to troll LSU fans, but Kelly seems more of an old school kind of coach, and wouldn't like the new rules.
Kelly isn't really in his prime and is just trying to win a natty on his way out.
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Riley thrives in NIL and the Transfer Portal. He gets a lot of talent that way.
He thinks it's far too time consuming and wants to do other things with his life.
Both Riley and Smart have been fairly vocal about the issue.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 3:06 pm to Dawg4Life47
quote:that ship has sailed, bowlcut has to play a real schedule now
Kirby is going for Saban's record
Posted on 1/29/24 at 3:07 pm to narddogg81
quote:Like the one Saban ran away from?
bowlcut has to play a real schedule now
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