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re: Jalen Milroe is going to be a problem isn’t he?

Posted on 4/17/22 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by bigman334
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/17/22 at 2:26 pm to
playing against fcs teams, yes. he will be great
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 4/17/22 at 4:51 pm to
Milroe is what we wanted to do with Hurts. Have him sit a year or two, learn the offense, and develop him. But, Blake Barnett panicked and transferred. Next season Milroe will be a monster.
This post was edited on 4/17/22 at 4:52 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/17/22 at 4:52 pm to
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Milroe is what we wanted to do with Hurts. But, Blake Barnett panicked and transferred. Next season Milroe will be a monster.




Hurts beat out Barnett. Barnett transferred after the 3rd or 4th game of the season. If he was going to start, he would have. He started the game against USC, got pulled and that was it.

Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9396 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 5:15 pm to
Hurts wouldn't have remained the starter if Barnett stayed. Do you remember how bad our offense was under Hurts when he played a defense with a pulse?!
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22374 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 5:19 pm to
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Hurts wouldn't have remained the starter if Barnett stayed. Do you remember how bad our offense was under Hurts when he played a defense with a pulse?!



No I do not. The only game we had trouble with offensively was LSU.

The only game we lost that year was the final game against Clemson. And while everyone blames Jalen, we were leading and only needed to stop Clemson on their last drive. Many point to the number of plays Clemson ran to blame Jalen, but he still scored over 30 points, and Clemson went the entire game without a single hold somehow on all those plays. Even then Clemson still needed a pick play to win the game.

The only thing I remember thinking was he was going to be even better in the future and I hoped his passing game would improve.
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 5:40 pm to
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The only game we lost that year was the final game against Clemson. And while everyone blames Jalen, we were leading and only needed to stop Clemson on their last drive.


I think Alabama went 3 and out 8 times in that game. The offense turned the ball back over to Clemson so often that they ran 99 plays. 99. The defense played finally just played out.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11654 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 5:42 pm to
Can Nick convince the kid to hang around for another year?

Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 6:08 pm to
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Can Nick convince the kid to hang around for another year?


The guy completed about 45% of his passes playing 2 hand touch. I think we’re safe here.
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 6:12 pm to
We were very thrilled with him, and despite thinking Quinn was in the fold out of high school, we were all extremely bummed he changed his pledge to Alabama.

Don't think anybody blamed him though. It was clear Tom Herman wasn't going to stay, and even if he was, he had not delivered on his promise to have a new offense like he said they would run after the 2020 season.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22374 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 6:18 pm to
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I think Alabama went 3 and out 8 times in that game. The offense turned the ball back over to Clemson so often that they ran 99 plays. 99. The defense played finally just played out.



I counted 6, but there were also a few 4 and 5 play drives that ended in a punt after getting a 1st down on the first play of the drive etc.

And on the drives we scored on, they were also over quickly. That's one thing I hate about explosive plays. They get points, but they don't give your defense a rest.

Things didn't really turn until we lost Bo. I don't know why Sark abandoned the running game at that point.

Jalen certainly didn't have a good game, but we were in it.

Posted by chefrossi
Member since Jan 2022
203 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 6:52 pm to
The aura around Jalen Hurts and our memory of him is one of the strangest I’ve ever seen.

Came in on fire.

Defenses (and us fans) quickly realized he can’t throw a football.

He got exposed vs above average D’s

We begged for Tua all of Hurts 2nd season

SUCKED in the Natty, Tua saved us

But ask anyone now, and Hurts was a legend lol but dude was a$$ for real

Posted by Othello
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Member since Aug 2013
22914 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 6:57 pm to
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And while everyone blames Jalen, we were leading and only needed to stop Clemson on their last drive. Many point to the number of plays Clemson ran to blame Jalen, but he still scored over 30 points, and Clemson went the entire game without a single hold somehow on all those plays. Even then Clemson still needed a pick play to win the game.


Exactly! And the next year when Tua got us a mighty 16 points against Clemson, the same Bama fans blamed our defense for losing that game but didn't blame our defense for blowing it against Clemson after Hurts scored the go ahead TD.

Bama fans are spoiled and stupid.
This post was edited on 4/17/22 at 7:09 pm
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 7:07 pm to
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the next year


With another team, another offensive coordinator, another lesser defense, and a quarterback playing with injuries

In 2018. Tua won the 2017 national title. Without Tua Alabama would have lost 2 in a row with Hurts.
This post was edited on 4/17/22 at 8:40 pm
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
15811 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 7:11 pm to
You left out the part where Hurts played his arse off only to be outmatched by Deshaun Watson.


What he lacked in arm talent he made up for with heart and work ethic.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2803 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 7:16 pm to
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But ask anyone now, and Hurts was a legend lol but dude was a$$ for real

Put aside the fact that Jalen was SEC PotY as a freshman and led Bama to two straight CFP appearances and an SEC Championship as a starter. Hurts was a legend because even after being replaced/humbled by Tua in CFPCG, he didn’t pout or whine, he stuck around for a year, fought to be the starter, wasn’t a distraction when he got beat out, was a supportive backup/good teammate, learned how to be a better passer, and then came in for Tua late in the SECCG to lead Bama to an SEC championship in dramatic fashion. If Tua hadn’t gotten hurt in that game, Bama most likely loses…

He graduated from Bama and then, in a classy way, transferred as a grad student to OU, led them to a playoff appearance as a Heisman finalist, and now’s a starter in the NFL. A$$ QBs don’t do that…but legendary QBs do…
This post was edited on 4/17/22 at 7:18 pm
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
26931 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 9:14 pm to
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This guy scares me more than Bryce Young



What?
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
26931 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 9:17 pm to
Nice player but he isn't making half those plays in a real game.

Players can't hit and were going half speed on some plays.

Strong arm and elusive.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9396 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 10:30 pm to
If Jalen was so good at Bama Tua wouldn't have come to Bama and Jalen was a year ahead of him. Rather, Tua went to Bama because he knew he was better than Jalen the minute he stepped on campus.

Jalen was a project at Bama that I believe the staff hoped to redshirt. Like I said Blake Barnett panicked and transferred.

And, while I'm a Bama fan Jalen's record and awards at Bama should have an asterisk because he played his freshman year with arguably the best defense in SEC history. His sophomore year Jalen was all but figured out but Bama out-talented and out coached everyone until the national championship game when If they didn't play Tua they wouldn't have won.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22374 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 10:58 pm to
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With another team, another offensive coordinator, another lesser defense, and a quarterback playing with injuries


He didn't seem hurt the week before the Clemson game. And I'm not sure what part of being hurt was behind the flaws in his game.

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In 2018. Tua won the 2017 national title. Without Tua Alabama would have lost 2 in a row with Hurts.


It was the only game Tua was good in against a good defense, and that was because Georgia didn't game plan for him(or at least properly). And people forget the reason why it was 2nd and 26 to start with.

The truth is, Tua made terrible decisions and didn't know how to get rid of the ball. He was always trying to be the hero and it cost him more than it helped. Thankfully, he gave us that national championship, because the rest was kind of bust.



Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91639 posts
Posted on 4/17/22 at 11:25 pm to
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He has to learn defenses more and make decisions quicker but yes, he has more raw ability than Bryce.
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