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re: Jalen Milroe is going to be a problem isn’t he?

Posted on 4/18/22 at 12:32 am to
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
12505 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 12:32 am to
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Thankfully, he gave us that national championship, because the rest was kind of bust.


I don't know how anyone could describe Tua's career at Bama as a bust.

I agree that he never learned how to throw the ball away, but other than that he threw for 77 TD's against 10 interceptions, nearly 7500 yards and only lost two games.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22556 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 12:54 am to
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I don't know how anyone could describe Tua's career at Bama as a bust.

I agree that he never learned how to throw the ball away, but other than that he threw for 77 TD's against 10 interceptions, nearly 7500 yards and only lost two games.


0 national championships as a starter.

Name a good defense he played against where he played well.

Name a play that was worse than his decision to throw an interception on 1st and 10 from his own 26 with 20 seconds less in the half against LSU.

2 lost games, and the game against Georgia that Hurts bailed him out on.

Sorry, the guy had tons of talent but made poor decisions.
Posted by ChromaticTide
Member since Dec 2021
892 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:00 am to
He’s an athlete playing QB. He’ll never be able to process defenses quickly enough and throw accurately enough to do much of anything.

At QB I’ll take Mac Jones over some retard that runs a 4.3. But everyone wants to oohh and ahhh about “potential”. Not every guy that runs fast and can throw a spiral has the potential to be an elite QB.

He’d be a better edge rusher or linebacker.
Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
Member since Dec 2014
4691 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:43 am to
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Truth be told, other than Jalen Hurts in 2016, our QBs have mostly functioned as pocket passers. Yeah...Tua could run it and so can Bryce Young. But for the most part Saban still prefers his QBs to remain in the pocket.



I believe you. Perhaps it's because the moment they start scrambling, there is a risk. It was obvious this was one reason they didn't want Bryce running much last season.

The moment you start riding the running quarterback, relying on his legs, you end up with this melodramatic bowel movement...



... and the Oscar goes to...

Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
14555 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:44 am to
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he has more raw ability than Bryce.

Please define raw ability

Posted by Easye921
Mobile
Member since Jan 2013
2343 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 6:22 am to
I'm not even sure he's gonna be the starter next year. Ty Simpson with a year under his belt will be a major problem for him. Better passer and very athletic, not as athletic as Milroe, but enough to give defenses fits.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35929 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 6:35 am to
Is this the thread where the inbred tards pretend they have a good QB - despite the fact that they couldn’t win jack shite with a Heisman winning QB?



DUrRRr - hE LoOk LiKe hE cOuLd KeEp uS wiThIn DoUbLe DiGiTs iN oUr aNnUaL nAtTy LoSs!”

These stupid sons of disgusting bitches never learn



Nice throw ya choking little loser! BAHAHAHHAHA!
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 6:36 am
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7131 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 7:59 am to
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I agree that he never learned how to throw the ball away, but other than that he threw for 77 TD's against 10 interceptions, nearly 7500 yards and only lost two games.



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1 Tua Tagovailoa* 199.4 2017 2019 Alabama
2 Mac Jones* 197.6 2018 2020 Alabama
3 Grayson McCall* 196.1 2019 2021 Coastal Carolina
4 Kyler Murray* 181.3 2015 2018 Oklahoma
5 Justin Fields* 178.8 2018 2020 Ohio State
6 Sam Bradford* 175.6 2007 2009 Oklahoma
7 Baker Mayfield* 175.4 2013 2017 Oklahoma
8 Dwayne Haskins* 174 2017 2018 Ohio State
9 Joe Burrow* 172.4 2015 2019 LSU
10 Marcus Mariota* 171.8 2012 2014 Oregon

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This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 8:00 am
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 8:11 am to
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Truth be told, other than Jalen Hurts in 2016, our QBs have mostly functioned as pocket passers. Yeah...Tua could run it and so can Bryce Young. But for the most part Saban still prefers his QBs to remain in the pocket.


I’m somewhat on this train as well. The dude averaged under 100 yards passing in 4 playoff starts. And Bama was on their way to their own version of 21-0 until Tua came in


BUT Jalen coming in and winning the SECCG is undeniably the stuff of legend
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 9:13 am to
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He’s an athlete playing QB. He’ll never be able to process defenses quickly enough and throw accurately enough to do much of anything.


How do you know?
Posted by ChromaticTide
Member since Dec 2021
892 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 9:30 am to
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How do you know?

Because he simply doesn’t throw a good ball. He’s been here a year now, and it’s safe to say that Hurts was a much better passer than Milroe.

People assume that a guy like Milroe will just keep getting better and better as if he has no ceiling. Welp, he does have a ceiling, and I think he’s pretty close to his ceiling right now. He threw an embarrassingly bad pick - not due to a bad read or inexperience, just a TERRIBLE throw to a wide open WR. It looked like a throw I would make, and I’ve never played QB in my life.

Meanwhile Ty Simpson has been here 3 months, and his passes are crisp and accurate. He can run. He has a presence on the field like he’s in control of the offense. He pauses to change protections. His throwing mechanics are flawless. He looks smart out there.
You wanna talk potential, Ty Simpson has potential.
A smart guy with great arm talent equals championships at Alabama. A running back playing QB does not.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 9:36 am to
No, Hurts wasn't a better passer than Milroe at this point in his tenure at Bama. Hurts got better as a passer his junior year when he was on the bench. Hurts couldn't do what he did against UGA in the SEC Championship his first two seasons at Bama.

And, I expect Ty Simpson to be polished because his father is a college football coach. But, to sit up here and say Milroe is nearly a finished product is foolish. Milroe has come a LONG way since last season and I think the kid is our next starter. Ty Simpson will have his hands full with either Holstein or Arch Manning come next season for the 2nd string QB.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7131 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 9:37 am to
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it’s safe to say that Hurts was a much better passer than Milroe.



not freshman or sophomore Jalen Hurts

Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 9:42 am to
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not freshman or sophomore Jalen Hurts


Exactly. I don't know who these people are that are LYING about who Hurts was a freshman or sophomore. They need to go back and watch the Unofficial Assistants videos on YouTube from Jalen's sophomore season.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7131 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 9:52 am to
Hurts 1st and 2nd year he would much rather take off than pass even to an open reciever It's already been noted how many times the offense turned the ball over to Clemson his first year. This photo shows a wide open receiver in the end zone. A second later Hurts took off to the right sidelines.

Posted by ChromaticTide
Member since Dec 2021
892 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 9:52 am to
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not freshman or sophomore Jalen Hurts

I know that Jalen Hurts wasn’t a good passer, but even Hurts was better than Milroe. Yall are really excited because he went out in a scrimmage and completed some slants?
I’ll admit he threw a decent deep ball to Leary on that one play, but it’s not like the ball was perfect. Leary did a great job of shielding the defender from the ball, and adjusting his speed. Both guys made a good play.

Jalen wasn’t a good passer, but he could hit some deep balls, and even as a true freshman he was great at throwing on the run.
Jalen was a better QB as a true freshman than Milroe is right now, and I’ll stand by that statement.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7131 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 9:55 am to
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I know that Jalen Hurts wasn’t a good passer, but even Hurts was better than Milroe. Yall are really excited because he went out in a scrimmage and completed some slants?


wrong answer. Milroe so far is not a good qb but at this point he's better than Hurts was. I am pretty sure Milroe would at least pass to a wide open receiver in the end zone
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 9:58 am to
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Jalen wasn’t a good passer, but he could hit some deep balls, and even as a true freshman he was great at throwing on the run.


This is all wrong. Jalen Hurts made Ruggs, Robert Foster, Cam I can't remember his last name, Jeudy, and Devonta look pedestrian because he couldn't get them the ball. Jalen would mostly pass to Ridley. Mind you these other guys were regularly open but Jalen either couldn't read the defenses and sometimes it was proven via film that Jalen would be looking at guys who were wide open but wouldn't pass the ball.
Posted by ChromaticTide
Member since Dec 2021
892 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 10:14 am to
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Milroe so far is not a good qb but at this point he's better than Hurts was.

What the frick are you talking about??

Milroe has done what?
What have you even seen from this kid aside from him completing some slant passes in a scrimmage? His completions werent even sharp and accurate.

Jalen Hurts was the SEC player of the year as a true freshman. He made some GREAT throws and runs as a freshman. He was a fricking dog. Im saying this as a major Hurts critic but the fact that yall are really saying Milroe is better is straight up disrespectful. Hurts made so many throws as a freshman that Milroe simply isn’t capable of. Yall need to watch a freshman highlights video because Hurts was god damn impressive as a QB. The problem was he had a ceiling, and couldn’t shred great defenses through the air.
But he was head and shoulders above Milroe. Come on yall. What the frick are we talking about here? Milroe can literally barely throw. Hurts only struggled against the best college defenses.
He led TWO different teams to the cfb playoffs in his 3 years as a starter. Milroe is nowhere close to this. Yall can stfu. This is ridiculous
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 10:16 am
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11659 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 10:17 am to
Jalen as a freshmen saved the season for Alabama. His game vs Ole Miss was great. He made mistakes but he carried that bunch to a win that day and more followed.

Milroe couldn't wear Jalen's jock.
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