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re: Is the current Alabama program greatest ever?
Posted on 4/7/18 at 10:06 am to TigerMeister
Posted on 4/7/18 at 10:06 am to TigerMeister
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it’s all Saban and not Bama.
This is true to a certain degree but people said the same about Paul Bryant. At some point you must give the Bama program credit for being able to bring in coaches that are a cut above the rest and doing whatever it takes to keep them there.
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 10:09 am to TigerMeister
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Yes but keep in mind that it’s all Saban and not Bama. He’d be doing the same thing at any big time program.
Don't do this to yourself. Admitting how good they have been is somewhat cathartic, give it a try. The jealousy and anger will only cause hair loss.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 10:13 am to Globetrotter747
quote:So true. LSU made Saban a household name in the CFB world. When he left Miami for Bama everyone knew the SEC was in trouble.
One big difference between Saban at Bama and Saban at LSU is he started at Bama with a lot more credibility and that helped recruiting, which is the lifeblood of any college program.
quote:They know it deep down. That won't stop them from cannibalizing the next guy. They will eat Dabo just as fast (if not more so) than any old Joe.
Both are great for each other, but Bama needs Saban more than Saban needs Bama.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 10:27 am to MullenBoys
Posted on 4/7/18 at 10:34 am to Vols&Shaft83
That really was an awful video and song. Really.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 10:53 am to The Quiet One
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The Miami Hurricanes are the only dynasty that can be in the conversation
Their '88 team was the best team in country IMO and would've made the a BCS playoff and Bama wouldnt have won 2 of their NC's if you applied 80's standards. (11 and 17) so Miami is more than just being in the conversation.
They also did it with 3 different HC's which is even more remarkable.You think Bama could do the same had Saban left after 3 years?
This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 10:54 am
Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:06 am to RD Dawg
quote:2011 #2 Bama beat #1 LSU in a bowl game. Wtf are you talking about?
Bama wouldnt have won 2 of their NC's if you applied 80's standards. (11 and 17)
So we apply current standards to one team, and un-apply them from the team that destroyed your soul, in order for you to attempt to make your case
Cool
Tua
Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:36 am to TouchdownTony
Had Saban stayed at LSU he may have won another title or 2. But there would have been plenty of 8 win seasons in there too. Alabama made Saban elite.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:38 am to JackieTreehorn
He definitely would've won another title with LSU in 06.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 12:13 pm to MullenBoys
Here is the answer to your question. No other school even close. Three year (and counting) separation between #1 and #2.
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Auburn21984-1985
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Nebraska21983-1984
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Pittsburgh21981-1982
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Ohio State21979-1980
Oklahoma21977-1978
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Alabama21961-1962
Iowa21960-1961
Mississippi21960-1961
Syracuse21959-1960
LSU21958-1959
Auburn21957-1958
Michigan State21956-1957
UCLA21954-1955
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This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 4/7/18 at 12:16 pm to JackieTreehorn
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Had Saban stayed at LSU he may have won another title or 2. But there would have been plenty of 8 win seasons in there too.
From 2005-2013 Les Miles had one 8 win season, one 9 win season and seven seasons with 10 or more wins, but Saban would have had "plenty" 8 win seasons. Interesting.
quote:But they couldn't make elite- Ray Perkins, Bill Curry, Gene Stallings, Mike Dubose, Dennis Franchione and Mike Shula? Once again, interesting.
Alabama made Saban elite.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 12:24 pm to Korin
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No, THIS is the combo of Bama AND Saban. This success happened at Bama before in the 60s and 70s. That may have been the greatest 20 year stretch in history.
Ron Turcotte rode both Riva Ridge and Secretariat, but I wouldn't say Riva Ridge and Secratariat were lucky to have been ridden by Ron Turcotte. I would say Ron Turcotte was lucky to have had ridden Riva Ridge and Secretariat.
Bama's had arguably the two best coaches in CFB history in Bryant and Saban - and in between Bryant and Saban was quite a bit of shite. Don't get me wrong... Bama's a great program but they were damn lucky to have had those two coaches. That's especially true with Saban, who (if things had turned out just slightly different) might have spent 25+ years whipping Bama's arse every season instead of winning national titles for them like he is now.
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At some point you must give the Bama program credit for being able to bring in coaches that are a cut above the rest and doing whatever it takes to keep them there.
Perkins, Curry, Stallings, DuBose, Franchione, Price and Shula are coaches that were a "cut above the rest"? Let's face it. The stars aligned with Saban. After, what, five straight losses to Auburn and a bunch of mediocrity (and that might be a generous term) Bama was absolutely desperate for a big hire. It just so happened that Saban was looking to get back into the college game at the same time.
It worked out great for both, but if Saban had gone to some other college program and Bama had hired some other coach I would put my money on Saban having a helluva lot more success than Bama over the last decade.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 12:29 pm to BlackCloud
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But they couldn't make elite- Ray Perkins, Bill Curry, Gene Stallings, Mike Dubose, Dennis Franchione and Mike Shula? Once again, interesting.
All had ten win seasons. Curry, Stallings, and Dubose won SEC titles. Stallings won a national title. Hardly elite but certainly not the depths of dispair many programs find themselves in during the inevitable downturns.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:09 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Bama has had 4 absolutely elite head coaches and the top 2 ever
No other program can touch that
Stallings resume would be considered elite at 95% of schools
No other program can touch that
Stallings resume would be considered elite at 95% of schools
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:04 pm to BlackCloud
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BlackCloud
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Above it all
Below it all. Pathetic.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:06 pm to MullenBoys
Is Saban tGOAT? Yes.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:09 pm to JuiceTerry
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Bama has had 4 absolutely elite head coaches and the top 2 ever
No other program can touch that
Stallings resume would be considered elite at 95% of schools
Alabama has had 5 head coaches win national titles at Alabama. 4 out of the 5 won multiple titles, Coach Stallings only won one....
So when Coach Saban leaves, Alabama will find another head coach that will win national titles (plural)..
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:11 pm to MullenBoys
As compared to what other program? Flag football?
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:14 pm to MullenBoys
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Is the current Alabama program greatest ever?
In terms of championships, dominance, securing elite 5-Star talent, instructing that elite talent to perform as a cohesive and effective unit, training within the context of the most advanced conditioning and medical programs to this point in human history, and prevailing consistently over very talented parity in the era of scholarship limits to 85, it's simply unprecedented, you could definitely make the argument this iteration of the Alabama football program is the greatest ever.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:16 pm to Paul B Ammer
With scholarship limits compared to Bryant yrs when you could sign as many as you wanted it is impressive. As a Bama fan I wonder how many LSU would have had he stayed there? Thank God he had the NFL itch & Hizinga persuasion.
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