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Is Saban correct about NIL ruining college athletics as we know it?

Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:03 am
Posted by MikeEhrmantraut
Anchorage, Alaska
Member since Nov 2020
851 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:03 am
I have to say I agree with his assessment. It’s on a path to ruin the collegiate athletic experience as we know it. Is it really beneficial to the student athlete?
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17884 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:09 am to
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Is Saban correct about NIL ruining college athletics as we know it?
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Yes.
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Is it really beneficial to the student athlete?

Yes, but the bulk benefiting are those who were already getting full rides, aka needed the least help. It's great Olympians can now collect, it's laughable instawhores can also.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33167 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:20 am to
NIL has absolutely ruined football, but I'm not gonna pretend Saban pioneered this school of thought.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19914 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:22 am to
Call me old fashioned and corny, but my emotional connection to watching college football is barely hanging on at this point.

There was a time when you’d say “That’s our guy.”, and you (most of the time) saw his connection to the school.

Now? Just guns for hire. They have no bond with the school, so don’t expect me to have a bond with them (and, by extension, their team).
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9912 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:24 am to
The problem isn't NIL, which would work normally in a fair system.

The problem is the schools and NCAA doing everything in their power to keep student athletes uncompensated so NIL became a loophole.

If they had been proactive this could have been avoided but greed and stupidity got in the way.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:35 am to
NIL is making the sport more competitive among power schools. I disagree vehemently with Saban. He favors athletes being compensated but not as employees. NIL is as American as apple pie. I dislike hypocrites who think a man shouldn’t be allowed to make a living from his own talents yet they claim to be capitalists.
Posted by Dallaswho
Member since Dec 2023
790 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:36 am to
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Is it really beneficial to the student athlete?


Is your paycheck beneficial?
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3644 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:42 am to
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Call me old fashioned and corny, but my emotional connection to watching college football is barely hanging on at this point. There was a time when you’d say “That’s our guy.”, and you (most of the time) saw his connection to the school. Now? Just guns for hire. They have no bond with the school, so don’t expect me to have a bond with them (and, by extension, their team).
You are 100% spot on.

I am really surprised more people are not able to comprehend this.

Contrary to popular belief, I don’t love Auburn because of Pat Sullivan, Bo Jackson, Charles Barkley, etc. I love those guys BECAUSE of Auburn.

If they were all just hired guns, I guarantee that my love for those guys would be minimal, if at all.

For anyone that responds to this by saying they’ve been paid in the past, that just proves you don’t get it and probably never will.
Posted by Mad Dog Droopy
Member since Mar 2024
61 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:44 am to
NIL is here because of Nick Saban and his cheating.

Mark Emmert turned a blind eye and protected Saban for years. Alabama players flaunted their new cars and wealth. Emmert and the NCAA went after other schools for anything they could find.

Other schools leveled the playing field by force. Emmert and Saban both retired and ran.

Posted by BigScoreboard
Member since May 2021
872 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:50 am to
I think he needs to mind his own beeswax. NCAA let him rule college football while coach. Now he isn't coach or AD or President, so he has no official role. Except trying to "fix" the game, and he knows a lot about "fixing".
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4304 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:50 am to
Conspiracy theorist alert..... Likely the same guy that believes we didn't actually go to the moon
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25657 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 12:04 pm to
I agree mostly with NIL, players getting some compensation is ok...

The problem to me is the unrestricted transfer portal system. Something has to happen there IMO...

College coaches have it hard enough without having to recruit an incoming class plus re-recruit your entire current roster.

If your gonna have NIL, they need some kinda contract/restrictions on your current players. It's become the wild west and I think that's why Saban left and many more good coaches will follow.

The best coaches are making frick you money now. Coach 10 yrs for $10,000,000 and you can GTFO and never worry the rest of your life...
This post was edited on 3/16/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
202 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 12:19 pm to
Yes, it has ruined everything. Today’s college athletes are soft. Overcompensated and underperforming. Free education, room and board, a small monthly stipend is all any college athlete needs. A hungry dog runs faster. These kids aren’t hungry. Half of them have lifetime fried chicken tender deals.
Posted by Mad Dog Droopy
Member since Mar 2024
61 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 12:36 pm to
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Conspiracy theorist alert..... Likely the same guy that believes we didn't actually go to the moon

What a moron.

OOPS! My bad. You're a Bammer. Being a low IQ, barely functional imbecile is to be expected.

FACTS:
1. Man walked on the Moon.
2. Bammer football is the filthiest program in the history of college athletics,
3. Nick Saban is the most unethical, underhanded cheater to ever be a college head coach.
4. We now have NIL because of Saban and Alabama's cheating.

Glad I could clear all of that up for your stupid self. Feel free to come back if you have more questions.
This post was edited on 3/16/24 at 12:57 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105397 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 12:41 pm to
It already has
Posted by Lateralus1
Member since Mar 2024
304 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 12:43 pm to
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The problem is the schools and NCAA doing everything in their power to keep student athletes uncompensated so NIL became a loophole.

If they had been proactive this could have been avoided but greed and stupidity got in the way.


Bingo. They did it to themselves.
Posted by Lateralus1
Member since Mar 2024
304 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 12:44 pm to
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Mad Dog Droopy


A politard has escaped.
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
202 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 12:46 pm to
The coaches getting paid argument is flawed. They are the tippy top 1% of their vocation for a reason. Most start out as GAs living out of the dorms and maybe getting minimum wage. They hustle their way up the chain just like a CEO climbs the corporate ladder. A kid coming on campus making millions before taking a single snap has barely climbed out of bed.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18345 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 12:46 pm to
NIL is severely damaging but I can get over the fact that these guys are getting paid.

It’s the transfer bullshite that is ruining college athletics.

It seems like the NCAA can easily regulate eligibility for transfer players.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14886 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 12:58 pm to
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NIL has absolutely ruined football, but I'm not gonna pretend Saban pioneered this school of thought.

You are right, it was LSU!
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