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re: Is LSU a top 5 job?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:23 pm to DeathByTossDive225
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:23 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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Nick brought us back from obscurity almost immediately, with a raging fury. Dinardo laid some great groundwork tbh, but we could all see he was destined for greatness.
Nobody even questioned it & no LSU fan wanted to see him go when the Dolphins came calling.
He was definitely seen as a great coach and a guy who can build/rebuild a program when Alabama hired him.
I've read that the biggest thing Saban did was getting the LSU AD to spend money, and do it in the right places.
He was also considered a nomad at the time and wasn't expected to stay at Alabama. I don't think anyone foresaw him doing what he ended up doing. I sure as frick didn't.
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:23 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Multiple people have.
And LSU was under investigation when O was hired and had sanctions when BK was hired.
Sanctions don't mean shite in the portal era.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:23 pm to 3down10
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3down10
You don't like it when your talking points are used against you. Whatever, nothing I said wasn't factual. You have your opinion and we have ours about LSU being a top 5 job RIGHT NOW. To me LSU being a top job overall is a fact.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:25 pm to 3down10
You can recover from them quicker but you're roster is still limited while they're ongoing
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:29 pm to TexasOnTop
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It is for the same reason UGA is.
Exactly.
LSU and UGA are like 1a/1b/1c with Ohio St.
Definitely better than most of those in OPs list.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:29 pm to cattus
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You don't like it when your talking points are used against you. Whatever, nothing I said wasn't factual. You have your opinion and we have ours about LSU being a top 5 job RIGHT NOW. To me LSU being a top job overall is a fact.
You don't like it when people put the shite you claim into context is what it's really about.
I think you gotta be an idiot to think 2 coaches winning 6 national championships each at the same school is nothing because "it's only 2 coaches".
But you are the same fan base that has spent the last 4 years talking about how great Brian Kelly was, citing any stupid stat you could find to justify it. So nothing here is surprising to me.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:33 pm to SidewalkTiger
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You can recover from them quicker but you're roster is still limited while they're ongoing
"recover quicker".
In the past, a loss of scholarships was a 3-5 year punishment. Because back in the day you had to get the recruits and actually train them up. So you just had a gap in your shite.
There are basically 0 limitations now. Ok, you lose a few for the 1 year, but that is mostly players you wouldn't be playing anyway. And then you just fill it back in with transfers the next year.
It's not even close to being the same. The NCAA is toothless now.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:37 pm to 3down10
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I've read that the biggest thing Saban did was getting the LSU AD to spend money, and do it in the right places.
He was also considered a nomad at the time and wasn't expected to stay at Alabama. I don't think anyone foresaw him doing what he ended up doing. I sure as frick didn't.
Nick could’ve been an AD by the time he left LSU. He wasn’t just a coach he was a program builder.
You don’t have to believe me, but I’m telling ya this is why we all melted when he landed at Bama. We knew the trajectory he had us on & we knew he would make Bama a force.
Nobody knew he’d rack up the most rings in the history of anyone, but we knew it was a problem lol.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:51 pm to Uga Alum
Tier A jobs (in no particular order):
Ohio State
Alabama
Notre Dame
Michigan
Oregon
Georgia
Texas
Tier B jobs (in no particular order).
USC
Oklahoma
Penn State
LSU
Florida
Florida State
Miami
Clemson
Texas A&M
Tennessee
Different coaches will rank them slightly differently. But no, LSU is not a top 5 job.
Pros:
Only major college in a state with a lot of talent
Success that proves they can win
Fan and financial support
Cons:
No loyalty to their coaches.
A rabid fanbase that will turn on a coach in a quarter.
Unrealistic expectations.
Most of their success (3 SEC titles and two national titles) came during one 8 year period from 2001-2007
In the 30 years prior they won 3 SEC titles, in the 18 years since they have won 2 SEC titles and one national championship.
They have only made the college football playoffs one time.
Louisiana is a different culture and many will not ever fit in nor be liked by fans.
Ohio State
Alabama
Notre Dame
Michigan
Oregon
Georgia
Texas
Tier B jobs (in no particular order).
USC
Oklahoma
Penn State
LSU
Florida
Florida State
Miami
Clemson
Texas A&M
Tennessee
Different coaches will rank them slightly differently. But no, LSU is not a top 5 job.
Pros:
Only major college in a state with a lot of talent
Success that proves they can win
Fan and financial support
Cons:
No loyalty to their coaches.
A rabid fanbase that will turn on a coach in a quarter.
Unrealistic expectations.
Most of their success (3 SEC titles and two national titles) came during one 8 year period from 2001-2007
In the 30 years prior they won 3 SEC titles, in the 18 years since they have won 2 SEC titles and one national championship.
They have only made the college football playoffs one time.
Louisiana is a different culture and many will not ever fit in nor be liked by fans.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:02 pm to Uga Alum
Name another school that has ZERO decent competition in its state for recruiting?
Name another state that pumps out more NFL players (All Pro’s) for that matter per capita???
Your answer is there is only “ONE SCHOOL” that has both!
And you have to drive long distances to even get to a decent school. Whereas other big time programs are much closer to competing programs that compete for the same talent.
And we have financial backing as we are witnessing right now.
And as loyal of a fanbase and best Saturday night venue in all of college football.
& Lagniappe: Not to mention the tailgating, food and festivities. & not to mention very good looking women and good friendly people in South Louisiana!
And that is why LSU is a top tier job and program!
So to all you clowns saying it’s not a Top 5 job don’t know football!
Name another state that pumps out more NFL players (All Pro’s) for that matter per capita???
Your answer is there is only “ONE SCHOOL” that has both!
And you have to drive long distances to even get to a decent school. Whereas other big time programs are much closer to competing programs that compete for the same talent.
And we have financial backing as we are witnessing right now.
And as loyal of a fanbase and best Saturday night venue in all of college football.
& Lagniappe: Not to mention the tailgating, food and festivities. & not to mention very good looking women and good friendly people in South Louisiana!
And that is why LSU is a top tier job and program!
So to all you clowns saying it’s not a Top 5 job don’t know football!
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:11 pm to Westbank111
And yet if you remove the Saban tenure LSU looks pretty average.
With Saban LSU averaged an SEC title once every 2.5 years and a national championship every 5 years.
Without Saban, over the past 55 years LSU averaged a SEC title every 10 years and a national championship every 25 years.
If LSU is such a great job, why has only one coach, the greatest ever, had sustained success there?
With Saban LSU averaged an SEC title once every 2.5 years and a national championship every 5 years.
Without Saban, over the past 55 years LSU averaged a SEC title every 10 years and a national championship every 25 years.
If LSU is such a great job, why has only one coach, the greatest ever, had sustained success there?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:13 pm to Tammany Tom
Do you honestly believe that georgia and LSU belong higher than Alabama?
I have no problem with the top 3 being Alabama, Ohio State and Texas in some order...but Georgia at #2 and LSU higher than Alabama?
Not sure how I would rank teams after the top 3, though.
I have no problem with the top 3 being Alabama, Ohio State and Texas in some order...but Georgia at #2 and LSU higher than Alabama?
Not sure how I would rank teams after the top 3, though.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:32 pm to Uga Alum
Who cares? You can win a title at LSU just as easy as you can anywhere else. Thats been proven. LSU is among a handful or two of places where this is the case. For reasons I can’t quite put my finger on it seems it’s easier to win there than Texas. It’s about fit. Perhaps it’s easier to find a good fit at LSU than Texas? I digress. Kelly wasn’t a good one, so they cut bait. Onward.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:35 pm to 3down10
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Nebraska
They do have 3 in that time period as well, so in the group with Georgia, LSU, Florida, Florida State and Ohio State.
So you have Bama, Miami, Clemson (forgot them too) Florida, Florida State, Georgia, LSU, Nebraska and Ohio State with 3+ since 1980.
I don't see why LSU wouldn't be considered a top 5 job with their in-state talent and recent success of national championships this century.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:36 pm to Dirty 6th
Texas’ problem is the boosters want to run the show, not the head coach
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:36 pm to Uga Alum
There is no reason it shouldn't be. Flagship university in a state which produces more NFL players per capita than any other, or close to it, a rabid fan base, brand recognition and 3 different coaches have won a natty in the last what, 20(?) years and 2 of those are generally considered buffoons in the world of coaching. The consensus is that ATM and Texas are filthy rich because of oil but hell they got oil in Louisiana as well and a sizeable damned conduit of transportation from the Gulf to what, Wyoming and Pennsylvania??? There is no reason LSU isn't a top 5 coaching job....and they have had far more recent success, again with 2 coaches who couldn't coach their way out of a paper sack, than at least half the teams on that list. Pulling the pin on Kelly as fast as they have, if they did not have a concrete secession plan with a name coach already on board, on paper, could well destroy them and they will find themselves in Tennessee / Nebraska company. Tennessee has somewhat recovered but it was a damned tough road....
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:38 pm to Gunny Hartman
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While fans at all big time programs are sorta like that, LSU fans might be the quickest to turn on a coach, with the possible exception of Bama fans.
That title goes to Alabama fans and we wear it with pride. After the FSU loss boosters were starting to meet about DeBoer's buyout. Nick said it best on Gameday earlier in the year-"Alabama fans aren't very patient."
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:38 pm to captdalton
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Ohio State
Alabama
Notre Dame
Michigan
Oregon
Georgia
Texas
Out of all of those the only one that has your metric of the only major In state college Is LSU and they have had as much or more success in the modern era than ND, Oregon, UGA, Michigan and Texas. Only Bama is far ahead.
As far as Saban is concerned, don't act like many in your fan base weren't calling for his head as well as KD after the FSU game.
As I said, Bama had one NC from 1979-2009 before Saban got there. That's surprising considering where Bama is now, who knows where you would be without him as well.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:47 pm to PSS101
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Texas’ problem is the boosters want to run the show, not the head coach
I have heard that. That was always a problem at Florida, in the past. I don't know if they have gotten past it or not. Auburn may be the program with the most booster interference in the SEC right now.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:54 pm to Uga Alum
I think most people in the industry would probably say yes
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