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Is Hugh Freeze the second best coach in the SEC right now?
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:28 pm
Kirby Smart is #1 with Saban having retired.
Of all the rest, only one coach has ever beaten Kirby Smart as a head coach... that being Hugh Freeze when he was at Ole Miss in Smart's first season as a head coach.
Lebby, Sark, Deboer, Elko and Venables haven't played Kirby yet so they could be in the mix. Everyone else have tried and failed multiple times against Smart.
Of all the rest, only one coach has ever beaten Kirby Smart as a head coach... that being Hugh Freeze when he was at Ole Miss in Smart's first season as a head coach.
Lebby, Sark, Deboer, Elko and Venables haven't played Kirby yet so they could be in the mix. Everyone else have tried and failed multiple times against Smart.
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:29 pm to DawginSC
I notice you asked this after Jimbo left.
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This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:31 pm to DawginSC
New Mexico State says no.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:36 pm to DawginSC
No. It's:
1. DeBoer
2. Smart
1. DeBoer
2. Smart
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:36 pm to DawginSC
Perhaps compare coaching resumes beyond one game in Kirbys 1st season.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:40 pm to DawginSC
Obviously you're trolling LSU fans but Hugh can probably catapult into the top 5 pretty quickly if the turnaround goes well.
And it's true that Deboer and Sark could move down equally quickly (not saying they will) starting next season.
T1 - Kirby
T2 - Tested but short of elite status: Lane and Kelly
T2 - Potentially elite but TBD in the SEC: DeBoer and Sark
And it's true that Deboer and Sark could move down equally quickly (not saying they will) starting next season.
T1 - Kirby
T2 - Tested but short of elite status: Lane and Kelly
T2 - Potentially elite but TBD in the SEC: DeBoer and Sark
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:44 pm to Pettifogger
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Sark
Has 1 good season as HC in his entire career, otherwise averages 7 wins a year.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:45 pm to DawginSC
I would take him back tomorrow if we didn’t have Kiffin. He shouldn't have been fired. We should have suspended him for a season, taken the NCAA punishment and moved on.
It all worked out in the end but I’m still pissed at our administration for ousting him. If the Auburn boosters get the frick out of his way and give him the support he needs, they will be winning 9+ games a year starting in year 3
It all worked out in the end but I’m still pissed at our administration for ousting him. If the Auburn boosters get the frick out of his way and give him the support he needs, they will be winning 9+ games a year starting in year 3
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:45 pm to DawginSC
No
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:46 pm to DawginSC
Short answer NO. Long answer NO he's not
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:48 pm to DawginSC
At the end of 2015, Freeze was the second best coach in the SEC. I think that's a pretty fair assessment if you go back and look at who was coaching at the time. The NCAA wrecked the program during the following offseason and it was spiraling by the time Freeze was let go.
However, that was 8 years ago. The game, the way programs are built, have changed dramatically. So to try and say he's the second best coach b/c of what he accomplished 8 years ago, is just inaccurate. He's going to have to show he can build a program with the new way of doing things before being considered that highly.
However, that was 8 years ago. The game, the way programs are built, have changed dramatically. So to try and say he's the second best coach b/c of what he accomplished 8 years ago, is just inaccurate. He's going to have to show he can build a program with the new way of doing things before being considered that highly.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:58 pm to Lord of the Hogs
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New Mexico State says no.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:05 pm to DawginSC
He very well may be. The talent he’s bringing in is at the highest level since the Chizik era.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:06 pm to DawginSC
It's been 8 yrs since Freeze was considered among the best in this conference. Things have changed will he evolve?
Freeze wants to build relationships, team loyalty, player comradery and he wants to have a genuine personal relationship with his players. He wants to build with high school talent & mix in a few portal guys to plug holes until the roster is dependable and he can train them on his system.
Can he juggle re-recruiting his own players, evaluating high school talent, recruiting the portal in addition to raising his own funds for NIL plus the demands of actually coaching his players, game planning, and in-game play calling?
Freeze wants to build relationships, team loyalty, player comradery and he wants to have a genuine personal relationship with his players. He wants to build with high school talent & mix in a few portal guys to plug holes until the roster is dependable and he can train them on his system.
Can he juggle re-recruiting his own players, evaluating high school talent, recruiting the portal in addition to raising his own funds for NIL plus the demands of actually coaching his players, game planning, and in-game play calling?
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:06 pm to DawginSC
No
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:21 pm to DawginSC
Anyone that thinks Freeze is in the top half of the league is an idiot.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:32 pm to Double Down
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Anyone that thinks Freeze is in the top half of the league is an idiot.
Top half? Go ahead and name the 7 that are better than he is.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:35 pm to DawginSC
quote:It’s interesting because the man is brilliant in many ways. He has the potential to be #2. But, he’s also not very bright. He can just as easily be #12 depending on the day. That lack of consistency will eventually drive Auburn fans mad.
Is Hugh Freeze the second best coach in the SEC right now?
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:36 pm to Double Down
We shall see. After a steep learning curve and some improved personnel moves he’s got his staff and (mostly) his players in there so I expect ‘25 will be his litmus test. I expect us to be improved this year in ‘24 but nothing spectacular. He had a very good class and another one brewing, and he has used the portal to fit some immediate needs but he still doesn’t have the right QB for his system yet.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:50 pm to Pettifogger
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Obviously you're trolling LSU fans but Hugh can probably catapult into the top 5 pretty quickly if the turnaround goes well.
And it's true that Deboer and Sark could move down equally quickly (not saying they will) starting next season.
T1 - Kirby
T2 - Tested but short of elite status: Lane and Kelly
T2 - Potentially elite but TBD in the SEC: DeBoer and Sark
I would leave everything off until this coming season. Drinkwitz might be the next upcoming HC. He is doing very well after letting go of running the offense to focus on being the HC. After this season we will all get an idea where each HC will be ranked in the SEC.
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