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re: Is Florida in the "big 6"?
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:24 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:24 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
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If you take away that four-year run by Urban Meyer, Florida and Tennessee have basically been butt brothers for the last 50 years.
If you take away Bama's runs under Bryant and Saban, they are a mediocre football program. See how dumb this kind of argument is?
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:26 am to ukraine_rebel
quote:well before something like THIS could ever have happened
at what point would you have kicked Ole Miss out?
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:28 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
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If you take away that four-year run by Urban Meyer,
"If you ignore the period where Florida went 48-9 and won two national championships, they really weren't that good!"
What a fricking ridiculous argument.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:32 am to Faurot fodder
Florida is one of six SEC programs to have won the conference since 1977, so, by that definition, they are in the Big Six.
They are also one of the six winningest programs in terms of all-time wins, national championships, conference wins, and conference championships. So by those definitions, they are in the Big Six too.
They are also one of the six winningest programs in terms of all-time wins, national championships, conference wins, and conference championships. So by those definitions, they are in the Big Six too.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:35 am to dstone12
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dstone12
Any club that dickstain is a part of is bound to be legit.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:37 am to Faurot fodder
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Any club that dickstain is a part of is bound to be legit.
I have no clue who you are, but you sound legit angry.
This post was edited on 12/19/22 at 8:40 am
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:47 am to dstone12
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I have no clue who you are, but you sound legit angry.
When someone on a message board says this I have to question their intelligence. You wanting nametags?
Amusement at the need to create a club is what you are observing. The sociology of it all is interesting.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:52 am to Faurot fodder
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You wanting nametags?
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Any club that dickstain is a part of is bound to be legit.
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Amusement at the need to create a club is what you are observing. The sociology of it all is interesting.
You do sound like a child. A jealous child.
Also not sure what you’re trying to say or why you’re so concerned about it.
You’ve combined huge emotion with very little intelligence.
Please, keep going.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:56 am to dcbl
That would 40 years after our last SEC title and 41 years after last national title, so that'd be pretty reasonable I guess.
By that logic Tennessee would have until 2038 to win a title. I could go along with that, certainly if they were 0-fer for 40 years, it could be said they no longer belonged.
By that logic Tennessee would have until 2038 to win a title. I could go along with that, certainly if they were 0-fer for 40 years, it could be said they no longer belonged.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 9:00 am to ukraine_rebel
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By that criteria, Ole Miss would have been in the big whatever number you choose in the 1960s, at what point would you have kicked Ole Miss out?
The last time Ole Miss had a valid argument for being in the Big Six was 1963. The reason the Big Six is the Big Six is because those six teams have won every conference & national championship in the SEC since 1963.
In fact, since the SEC was founded in 1933, there have been only twelve seasons….
1941 Miss State
1943 Ga Tech
1944 Ga Tech
1947 Ole Miss
1949 Tulane
1950 Kentucky
1952 Ga Tech
1954 Ole Miss
1955 Ole Miss
1960 Ole Miss
1962 Ole Miss
1963 Ole Miss
….that one of the Big Six wasn’t at least a co-SEC champion. As you can see Ole Miss was one of the top programs in the 50s to early 60s, but they haven’t been relevant since.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 9:32 am to Tornado Alley
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"If you ignore the period where Florida went 48-9 and won two national championships, they really weren't that good!"
What a fricking ridiculous argument.
The point is Florida has had a period. (between 1990 and 2009 or so). That's where all of their SEC titles were earned.
UGA doesn't have a brief period of relevance. Instead they had a brief period of irrelevance (mostly in the 90's). They've won the SEC in every other full decade the conference has existed.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 9:33 am to Darth_Vader
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that one of the Big Six wasn’t at least a co-SEC champion. As you can see Ole Miss was one of the top programs in the 50s to early 60s, but they haven’t been relevant since.
So my question is, based on the criteria, at what point would you say Ole Miss was no longer a part of the group. It wouldn't be 1963, of course we were in it then. 25 years would be 1988, that's where Tennessee is now. Anything earlier than that, you would have to say Tennessee is no longer in the group. Anything earlier than 1978, Florida would have to go as well.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 9:43 am to ukraine_rebel
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So my question is, based on the criteria, at what point would you say Ole Miss was no longer a part of the group. It wouldn't be 1963, of course we were in it then. 25 years would be 1988, that's where Tennessee is now. Anything earlier than that, you would have to say Tennessee is no longer in the group. Anything earlier than 1978, Florida would have to go as well.
oP did a self-own troll post in trying to dis UF.
When the SEC expanded in 1992, the moniker (not a club) started because the sec kept marquee matchups with the six most storied programs thst Drove TV revenue(which is what is ALL ABOUT).
It preserved rivalries between east and west with
Ala-Ten
Uga-aub
Then promulgated a good rivalry since the late 50s in uf and lsu which became an entertainer by the 2000s.
Those six programs carried the sec after expansion to the media/money/results-oriented juggernaut that it is today. It could not be done without the other programs either.
But the moniker stuck and op is very jealous and triggered by the whole premise.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 10:21 am to dstone12
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When the SEC expanded in 1992, the moniker (not a club) started because the sec kept marquee matchups with the six most storied programs thst Drove TV revenue(which is what is ALL ABOUT).
It preserved rivalries between east and west with
These were developed in 1991, when UF only had 1 title that was forfeited and no one was watching Florida football then. If your premise is ture, then Florida would not be a part of a big anything. Try again.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 10:22 am to PanhandleSlim
Incorrect. This is why Florida is devastatingly behind Georgia.
Georgia frequently enjoyed 10-win seasons and won major bow games (even if they weren’t the Natty). Florida, on the other hand, thinks that a losing season with bowl losses to UCF and PAC 12 teams are equivalent to any season in which a championship is not won.
Even when Georgia didn’t compete for a Natty, they were still a top ten team in college football. Not the case for Florida outside of that 12-year period.
Case in point, the Georgia program has never been anywhere near as poor as Florida has been for the past several years. Look all time wins, bowl victories, head-to-head record, etc. It’s indisputable that Georgia is the superior program.
In our off years, we win 10 games and compete in the Rose Bowl. In your off years, you go 5-7 and lose to UCF and Georgia Southern.
Florida is basically Auburn.
Georgia frequently enjoyed 10-win seasons and won major bow games (even if they weren’t the Natty). Florida, on the other hand, thinks that a losing season with bowl losses to UCF and PAC 12 teams are equivalent to any season in which a championship is not won.
Even when Georgia didn’t compete for a Natty, they were still a top ten team in college football. Not the case for Florida outside of that 12-year period.
Case in point, the Georgia program has never been anywhere near as poor as Florida has been for the past several years. Look all time wins, bowl victories, head-to-head record, etc. It’s indisputable that Georgia is the superior program.
In our off years, we win 10 games and compete in the Rose Bowl. In your off years, you go 5-7 and lose to UCF and Georgia Southern.
Florida is basically Auburn.
This post was edited on 12/19/22 at 10:23 am
Posted on 12/19/22 at 10:25 am to ukraine_rebel
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25 years would be 1988, that's where Tennessee is now. Anything earlier than that, you would have to say Tennessee is no longer in the group
Tennessee is the second winningest program in conference history, even despite their struggles the past two decades. So to answer your question, no, you're incorrect, Tennessee has never been outside of the power programs in the conference.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 10:26 am to ukraine_rebel
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then Florida would not be a part of a big anything. Try again.
It they are.
The next two biggest programs would have been Arkansas and ole miss.
They were both in the same division.
Now they are forced into meaningless sec east rivalries.
Arky is forced to play a lesser program in Mizz
Miss is forced to play vandy.
Additionally, Florida proved it was big six after expansion. They belong. Sorry.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 10:27 am to DawginSC
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They've won the SEC in every other full decade the conference has existed.
There is no need to manipulate statistics to prove your point. It's okay that Georgia hasn't won the conference in every decade it has existed. Only one program can claim that anyways.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 10:29 am to Tornado Alley
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winningest
That probably doesn't mean what you think it means.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 10:29 am to dstone12
I don't need to dis Florida. Did you watch that football game they played vs. Oregon St? That spoke for itself. It's just amusing to see some of you southern baws (mostly dickstain) get riled up over whether or not your team is qualified to be in some made up club, excuse me, part of a moniker.
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