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re: If LSU 2019 was the greatest cfb team of all-time, who was the second best SEC team ever?
Posted on 8/4/26 at 10:05 pm to saturdaysarebetter
Posted on 8/4/26 at 10:05 pm to saturdaysarebetter
Almost any Bear Bryant team. Really sucks, but true. Have to be honest. As an LSU fan I hated him because he was so great. Then they get Nick Saban. Really, really sucks. They were probably the two greatest college coaches of all time. Sucks
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Posted on 8/4/26 at 10:16 pm to narddogg81
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2019 lsu was too shite on defense to be the best ever
2019 LSU's defensive struggles are WAY overblown on this board because of one or two bad performances.
When adjusted for opponent, they finished at #11 nationally.
For a comparison, #11 in 2025 was Georgia.
Posted on 8/4/26 at 10:49 pm to saturdaysarebetter
‘22 Georgia probably deserves a mention. They played one close game in the regular season and won a national title game by dang near 60 points.
I know that ‘08 Florida famously lost to Ole Miss in the Tebow speech game but from that point in the season on I thought that team was one of the best SEC teams I’ve ever seen.
It’s difficult to pick a specific Bama team because some of the most impressive teams they’ve had didn’t win it all, and then some of the teams that did win it all had moments of being fairly unimpressive. If you made me pick one Bama team, I’d probably go with 2011 as well simply because that whole season it was very apparent that it was Bama, LSU, and then everyone else a pretty big step behind. And they absolutely humiliated LSU in the championship.
I know that ‘08 Florida famously lost to Ole Miss in the Tebow speech game but from that point in the season on I thought that team was one of the best SEC teams I’ve ever seen.
It’s difficult to pick a specific Bama team because some of the most impressive teams they’ve had didn’t win it all, and then some of the teams that did win it all had moments of being fairly unimpressive. If you made me pick one Bama team, I’d probably go with 2011 as well simply because that whole season it was very apparent that it was Bama, LSU, and then everyone else a pretty big step behind. And they absolutely humiliated LSU in the championship.
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:33 pm to Gatorbait2008
2001 Miami roster was stacked, that’s a lot of all pros on one roster for an nfl team much less college. It’s not that close. Miami didn’t have weaknesses, the 20 lsu d was questionable. McGahee gore Davenport they’d have have a field day. LSU only shot would be a shootout where they got the ball last.
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:43 pm to SidewalkTiger
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2019 LSU's defensive struggles are WAY overblown on this board because of one or two bad performances.
I'm sorry, my guy, but if you're trying to go for "best team of all time" you don't get to excuse bad performances. You are what your record says you are, and 2019 LSU's record says they were an elite offensive team coupled with an average (at best) defense.
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:44 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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I'm sorry, my guy, but if you're trying to go for "best team of all time" you don't get to excuse bad performances. You are what your record says you are, and 2019 LSU's record says they were an elite offensive team coupled with an average (at best) defense.
How is #11 in the country in FEI defense, considered average (at best)?
ETA - I'm not arguing 2019 LSU was the best team ever, just that their defensive struggles are severely exaggerated.
This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:47 pm to SidewalkTiger
You watched them play, just like I did. Make a case for them being an elite defensive team and I'll listen.
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:50 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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You watched them play, just like I did. Make a case for them being an elite defensive team and I'll listen.
I don't think they were elite defensively but they were definitely very good.
People hang on to a bad game or two and trash the defense when it was actually very good, especially with the injuries in the first part of the year.
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:53 pm to SidewalkTiger
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but they were definitely very good.
Show your work.
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:57 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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Show your work.
They were #11 in the country in opponent adjusted efficiency.
They faced 3 top 5 offenses, 4 top 10 offenses, and #11.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 9:17 am to Gatorbait2008
Does anything that happened after 2001 change what took actually place on the field in 2001????
Does it add yards to statistics? Does it add points to the scoreboard?
I await your answer.
Does it add yards to statistics? Does it add points to the scoreboard?
I await your answer.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 9:18 am to BigNastyTiger417
2001 Miami was in the SEC? Who knew????
Posted on 8/5/26 at 9:20 am to bamabaseballsec
McGahee rushed for 314 yards in 2001. That impress you????
Gore rushed for 562 yards in 2001. That impress you??? That's never been done before I'm sure.
Davenport rushed for 54 yards in 2001. Oh my, Heisman!!!! That impress you?
Gore rushed for 562 yards in 2001. That impress you??? That's never been done before I'm sure.
Davenport rushed for 54 yards in 2001. Oh my, Heisman!!!! That impress you?
Posted on 8/5/26 at 9:21 am to saturdaysarebetter
Believe it or not, some people think that a team that COULD NOT SCORE AN OFFENSIVE TOUCHDOWN AGAINST AN UNRANKED TEAM is the greatest college football team of all-time. Crazy, right?
It's a truly ridiculous notion isn't it? Thinking the greatest college football team ever is one that COULD NOT SCORE AN OFFENSIVE TOUCHDOWN AGAINST AN UNRANKED TEAM.
The greatest cfb teams score on everybody especially unranked teams. Knowledgeable college football fans know that. Absolutely shows how little some college football fans know. That would be the definition of football stupid.
That same team also needed FIVE TURNOVERS TO SURVIVE AND BEAT the 14th-ranked team by JUST TWO POINTS.
That sound like the greatest college football team ever to you?
By the way, that team was Miami 2001.
It's a truly ridiculous notion isn't it? Thinking the greatest college football team ever is one that COULD NOT SCORE AN OFFENSIVE TOUCHDOWN AGAINST AN UNRANKED TEAM.
The greatest cfb teams score on everybody especially unranked teams. Knowledgeable college football fans know that. Absolutely shows how little some college football fans know. That would be the definition of football stupid.
That same team also needed FIVE TURNOVERS TO SURVIVE AND BEAT the 14th-ranked team by JUST TWO POINTS.
That sound like the greatest college football team ever to you?
By the way, that team was Miami 2001.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 9:32 am to PurpleandGeauld
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2011 bama was a beast even with 1 loss, they would get my vote
I'm with this guy. 2011 Bama was by far the 2nd best SEC team ever in my opinion. Outside of 2019 LSU, nobody's beating that team.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 9:33 am to BigNastyTiger417
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who was the second best SEC team ever?
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2001 Miami
You didn't come here to play school, did you?
Posted on 8/5/26 at 9:37 am to saturdaysarebetter
Yes Willis and gore future all pros are quite a tandem. 16 all pros are on that roster. It’s called quality depth, it would be needed when playing other elite teams. If having a capable nfl running back as your fourth option behind future all pros isn’t impressive maybe you just don’t know much about football.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 9:42 am to saturdaysarebetter
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Believe it or not, some people think that a team that COULD NOT SCORE AN OFFENSIVE TOUCHDOWN AGAINST AN UNRANKED TEAM is the greatest college football team of all-time. Crazy, right?
It's a truly ridiculous notion isn't it? Thinking the greatest college football team ever is one that COULD NOT SCORE AN OFFENSIVE TOUCHDOWN AGAINST AN UNRANKED TEAM.
The greatest cfb teams score on everybody especially unranked teams. Knowledgeable college football fans know that. Absolutely shows how little some college football fans know. That would be the definition of football stupid.
That same team also needed FIVE TURNOVERS TO SURVIVE AND BEAT the 14th-ranked team by JUST TWO POINTS.
That sound like the greatest college football team ever to you?
By the way, that team was Miami 2001.
If 2001 Miami did not score an offensive touchdown all year, they'd have finished that year 8-4
that's nuts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:03 am to saturdaysarebetter
A lot of people sleep on this team from an all-time perspective (probably because they weren't around at the time) but
1996 Florida Gators
They outscored their opponents 612-221 and thrashed FSU in the rematch for the natty 52-20
People forget they probably go undefeated if maybe half of those reported late hits on Wuerffel in the FSU loss at Doak get called
The Fun and Gun - predecessor to Art Briles and Coach Kiffin's offensive scheme
1996 Florida Gators
They outscored their opponents 612-221 and thrashed FSU in the rematch for the natty 52-20
People forget they probably go undefeated if maybe half of those reported late hits on Wuerffel in the FSU loss at Doak get called
The Fun and Gun - predecessor to Art Briles and Coach Kiffin's offensive scheme
This post was edited on 8/5/26 at 10:03 am
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:03 am to Gen Patton
That's a stat against the weak little sisters of the BIG LEAST conference Miami fans refer to cover up for the FACT that they COULD NOT SCORE AN OFFENSIVE TOUCHDOWN AGAINST AN UNRANKED TEAM.
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