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re: If Kiffin had a choice of Florida, USCw, LSU, Auburn, or Ole Miss

Posted on 10/1/25 at 8:54 pm to
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
39546 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 8:54 pm to
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If Florida is such an easy job, why have the only coaches that won NC are Spurrier and Meyer?



it's pretty simple... some coaches "have it". some don't.


Muschamp only had defense.

McElwain was average.

Mullen was actually decent at the coaching, but his fault was loyalty to those that didn't deserve it and his focus was lingering (to the NFL) elsewhere up until his firing.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
53269 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 8:59 pm to
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Exactly, you don’t know shite. That was never reported on.

Oh, it only happened if someone reported it?
Posted by MadisonReb10
Brandon, MS
Member since Aug 2010
931 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:23 pm to
Mullen went to 3 access bowls in 3 of his 4 years. He won 2 of them. 4th season wasn’t good but he also had a winning percentage better than all but 2 of Florida’s coaches - Spurrier and Meyer. Maybe a lot went on behind the scenes. I’ve heard it was due to his recruiting but he’s never been known as a good recruiter and that was known when he was hired. Instead of letting him attempt to fix the situation after 3 access bowls the previous 3 years, he gets fired.

As Kiffin has gotten older he’s gotten more settled and that’s not a job I think he’d leave for anymore. Not in the NIL era. There are maybe a select 7 or so jobs he would probably take but Florida is not one of them. At Ole Miss everyone from the Chancellor to the fan that saved up to make it to just one game against a G5 are all pulling in the same direction while Florida’s athletic department can’t even get on the same page.
Posted by Tigertittie
Member since Sep 2021
858 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 5:02 am to
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My take on all these 'Kiffin is going to ____" threads is that lots of people think Kiffin is a great coach, and they want him to coach at their school. At the same time, these same threads talk about how no one can win at Ole Miss and what a second-rate job it is compared to their school. So, that pretty much makes the first part of their argument crazed.


But the two aren't mutually exclusive. Ole Miss could be a second rate job, and he could be a great coach.
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
8161 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 7:00 am to
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He's already told LSU no before.


Totally Untrue!

Lane would give up his left nut to coach at LSU, but they have never even talked to him about the job, much less offered it to him.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
3097 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 7:07 am to
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If Florida is such an easy job,


Florida is a job that has a lot of potential and a lot of resources compared to most places.

There aren't more than about five other places that have available to them what Florida has in terms of things you need to build a powerhouse program.

The fact that they haven't done it very often is another matter.

Even Bear Bryant alluded to he fact that Florida was a "sleeping giant" back in the day.

Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2887 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 8:55 am to
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If Kiffin had a choice of Florida, USCw, LSU, Auburn, or Ole Miss

LSU. Louisiana has good high school talent and no competition for recruiting form other in-state schools...
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
7929 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:01 am to
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good high school talent and no competition for recruiting form other in-state schools...


Geography barely even matters anymore. Florida, Texas, California, Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana…programs nationwide recruit every state. What matter$ mo$t to prospects now is $how me the money. Secondly, how many players is this coaching staff putting in the nfl.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8771 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:03 am to
Keep melting
Posted by rbtgoodson
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
340 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:24 am to
Ole Miss until his children transition into adulthood. Afterwards, I would argue that Florida would come back into play for his ex-wife's (rumored to be back together) ties to the university through her father. Auburn blew its chance, and LSU and SC aren't in play. Honestly, if he stays on his current trajectory, he could become Ole Miss's greatest coach, and more than likely, have the field named after him, etc.
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 9:39 am
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
12292 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:47 am to
His ex-wife's connections could not be less relevant. If he goes to Florida, it's because they back the brinks truck up with a crazy number. They did not get close when they pursued Lane the first time. Lane is currently at $9m a year. I suspect Florida would need to bump that up to something pretty dumb, along with making commitments on the NIL front.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
17960 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:01 am to
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Louisiana has good high school talent and no competition for recruiting form other in-state schools


This is probably the last place that this is a factor as Louisiana kids generally all want to play at LSU. However, this factor is rapidly eroding. Believe a couple of the top LA recruits have gone to Oregon and Texas recently (could be wrong). Either way with NIL there isnt such a high in state stronghold like there used to be — see Oregon for example.
Posted by LuciusSulla
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2010
2761 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:29 am to
To me, what is interesting here is -

IF Florida fires Napier and
IF Florida offers Kiffin (and for some reason with this admin, neither is a guarantee)

then what he does next will say a bit about just how much perceived parity there is these day among coaches. Columnists and commentators have been talking a lot about how much more evenly matched things are, and there seems to be a growing consensus that any P4 school that has a competitive NIL program, boosters all rowing in the same direction, and competent leadership might be able to go all the way in a given year.

Before NIL and the portal, Florida is the better job without a doubt. It probably still is, but the gap may not be big enough anymore to blow up a perfectly good thing that still has potential.

I doubt it would come down to money were the offer extended because both parties have money to burn. It will be an interesting data point on how important legacy still is these days though I think.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69451 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:38 am to
He would pick LSU over all those...then UF
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
48244 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:48 am to
He is crazy if he doesn't stay at Ole Miss.


He has coached at Tennessee, USC and even in the NFL, so I would think he has the experience to know he has a great gig, but you never know. Some coaches are very nomadic by nature.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
71561 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:52 am to
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He would pick LSU over all those


Why would he take a step down for a job?
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 12:26 pm to
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Keep melting


Not a melt. I’m not the kind of fan who says the other team sucks just because we lost — Ole Miss earned it. Honestly, I wasn’t surprised. If anything, I almost wanted Nuss to throw more picks so he’d get benched. Odd it was only a 5-point game, but a win’s a win.

My point is the Kiffin hype has always been empty. He had a miserable P4 record before Ole Miss, just one 10-win season, people hyped him then. Even after his first 2 shitty seasons at Ole Miss, LSU fans wanted him over Kelly in 2022. Based on what? Who’s running this guy’s PR? How does he manage to generate such hype?

Brian Kelly accomplished more in his first year in the SEC than Kiffin has in five years at Ole Miss — and probably ever will. Kiffin’s a good coach, not great. He’ll have some 9- and 10-win seasons, but nothing beyond that. Outside of meaningless bowls, he has done nothing.

That’s the point. If we’re talking about the win, congrats. I hate that we lost, but congrats. But if we’re talking about Kiffin as a coach, stop lying. He’s good. Not great and certainly not worth everyone freaking out about where he’s going to go.
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
26879 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 3:10 pm to
You can win it all at LSU, UF USC, Auburn
Two have top tier recruiting advantages
Ole Miss he has built, but not sure he can go farther
USC he already did but money helps now


LSU-UF-USC

Auburn
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
26879 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 3:13 pm to
One is at Ole Miss
One is at LSU

LSU has a very clear advantage. Now comparing how he did vs Kelly when Lane was at USC or Tenn is fair to Kelly at LSU
Posted by Landmass
Premium Member
Member since Jun 2013
24447 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 3:52 pm to
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You can win it all at LSU, UF USC, Auburn
Two have top tier recruiting advantages


You dipshits still haven't learned that the NIL changed things. Some programs that used to be historically good are going to be in the tank. Some that used to be lower tier teams are going to rise up. Neither Auburn nor Florida even have a pulse in the NIL era of college football. Since NIL started, Ole Miss & Mizzou have been contenders almost every year and we've been in the top 5 in the portal class every year.

Both Auburn and Florida are in the shitter when it comes to coaching circles.Quit jacking yourself off and open your eyes.

The new reality is that with NIL, you can win it all anywhere as long as the program prioritizes it.
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